Westministenders: Where's my milk and cheese?

[RedToothBrush]

The 'smooth' exit from transition now leads to a million and one little things that you can't get hold of or took completely for granted.

Why is sainsbury in NI selling spa milk? Why can't you get hold of your favourite food stuff?

Its a slow strangulation of the country.

In which you get to learn all about the merits of the EU and what a donkey Johnson really is.

Has Rees Mogg said “Let them eat Hake” yet?

How happy will the hake be if we do?.

Cod awful man

Insert Sturgeon and Salmond joke here.

feels sorry for the bot accounts trying to run the recent posts through their translation software

the Bloaters in the HoC must be enjoying this

@ListeningQuietly

feels sorry for the bot accounts trying to run the recent posts through their translation software

the Bloaters in the HoC must be enjoying this

Meh, most of them are Boris' prawns.

Good translation software should flag up puns. Or at least it did in Star Trek.

But, yes, the Brexiteer Brigade are mighty quiet of late. Certainly on these threads (goes to check "Brexit" forum) ... no new Brexit Arms since 3rd - nearly 2 weeks ago.

Overall vibe across my networks is not at all good for Starmer. He's been well shafted with the speedy news that workers rights have become a "nice to have". WTF are Labour for if not the working man ?

If anyone is on Twitter take a look at Matt Haig's poem

Via BCF
twitter.com/TOrynski/status/1349784018628259841

Tomasz Oryński @TOrynski
Polish trucking magazine 40ton.net reports: A Polish truck driver entered Kent on Monday with valid Kent permit. He turned up at Ashford when they told him that his documents need to be double-checked, so he was sent to a different truck park to wait. 1/4

On Wednesday (!) he was informed his paperwork got a green light and told to come back to Ashford custom place only to find that custom truck park is full. He was told to park on yet another truck park which serves the queue. 2/4

There, the police come and fined him 300 pounds because his Kent access permit has by this time expired. So apparently the document called "kent access permit" needs to be renamed to "Kent accessing and then sitting for days, waiting for the paperwork permit". 3/4

Also, in Ashford drivers have to wait up to 4 hours outside in the rain in the queue to the customs office

Found in comments:
"The English tell you to leave the compound after paperwork is done even if your driving time is over. You can't just drive out and park in the lay-by, as they will slam a wheel clamp on you for that..."

"I've been fucked about for two days in United Whoredom. Now the best thing: I arrived in Germany, it took 15 minutes".

Most comments though are along the lines of
"Why do you ever go there? Haven't you learned anything after that infamous Christmas in Dover?"
"Fuck them, as if there was not enough job in civilised Europe!"
"If they are so wise, let them send British drivers through this crap"

These guys aren't coming back. Ever.

We don't have enough drivers.

I might have been a tad optimistic with April. Late March ?

orynski.eu/imprisoned-at-the-border/
This is an account he wrote about Dover at Christmas (its in English) which was published in Poland

@RedToothBrush

orynski.eu/imprisoned-at-the-border/ This is an account he wrote about Dover at Christmas (its in English) which was published in Poland

If not for a revolt of the Polish drivers in Dover, their ordeal could last even longer. “We marched onto the opposite lane of the motorway and blocked it. After negotiations with the police, we came off it, but we told them unless they start testing soon, we’re going to block it again. Only after that tests started – within an hour” – says Tomasz Bis, a truck driver from Stalowa Wola, who spent three days on the M20 motorway.

Shades of that statue coming down in Bristol.

My DM was arrested in 1979 for sitting in the road (with a lot of other mothers) after another child was killed outside our school. The first as in 1976 and that happened after a near miss in 1972 which the council "were responding too".

2 days after the sit in, some workmen turned up with what looked like curling irons, and blocked the road. It was made permanent the next month.

I restate my dislike of violence. But once you learn it works ....

Meanwhile in the Netherlands the entire government have resigned over a scandal...

Netherlands thing will be their Windrush
really nasty and racist

Polish drivers - yet again I TOLD YOU SO
sovereignty is irrelevant
its C88s that make life bearable

Just saw that red
Really shocking.

@Peregrina
A lot of the Leave apologists come on these threads and declare that there is no problem whatever bringing a container load of stuff half way across the world. It's much better to do this than trade with your neighbours. The same applies to Ireland's neighbour - why not bypass it directly?

Good point. And what of the environmental cost of transporting stuff across the planet? That was my first thought the day after the referendum. If it’s just as quick/cheap to get fruit/veg shipped or flown over from South Africa, Mexico and Kenya as from our closest neighbours, then what effect on carbon levels in the atmosphere and speed of global warming? Shouldn’t government be putting the climate crisis first in their decision-making? Stupid and short-sighted.

And what of the environmental cost of transporting stuff across the planet?

(Boris mode) Fuck the planet

Echoing yesterdays news

www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/1/15/uk-twin-pandemic-and-brexit-crises-prompt-unprecedented-exodus

Which should be a wake up call. It's entirely possible that in 5 years time we will have a ridiculously top heavy population (despite the governments best efforts to bump a few thousand off with Covid). Meaning more old people that ever needing pensions, health and social care weighed against even fewer young people to pay the taxes needed and become the doctors, nurses and carers needed.

Last time this happened the answer was to import West Indian, Indian, African and Pakistani labour to make up the shortfall.

This time, I suspect the take up will be much less. Can't imagine why ?

Overall vibe across my networks is not at all good for Starmer. He's been well shafted with the speedy news that workers rights have become a "nice to have".

What the F* did he expect? He should have learnt from the LibDems that the Tories would shaft him. The good things the LibDems did in Coalition were forgotten with the tuition fees debacle. BTW I wasn't a LibDem then. I joined up to get the useless Nicola Blackwood out. We succeeded, she got bumped up to the Lords. Where was the Will of the People then?

I was very glad that the LDs and SNP voted against - thus making a statement not that we wanted No Deal, but that this Deal (A Great Deal, don't forget) was rubbish. Abstention would have been fine - the nodding dogs, who have made it clear that they have more important things to do than read the bills they are voting on, would have passed it anyway.

@DGRossetti

Echoing yesterdays news

www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/1/15/uk-twin-pandemic-and-brexit-crises-prompt-unprecedented-exodus

Which should be a wake up call. It's entirely possible that in 5 years time we will have a ridiculously top heavy population (despite the governments best efforts to bump a few thousand off with Covid). Meaning more old people that ever needing pensions, health and social care weighed against even fewer young people to pay the taxes needed and become the doctors, nurses and carers needed.

Last time this happened the answer was to import West Indian, Indian, African and Pakistani labour to make up the shortfall.

This time, I suspect the take up will be much less. Can't imagine why ?

Bad form to quote oneself, unless one is a weapons grade poet, but this popped up in my feed, and it seems to belong as a coda to the above.

A shrinking London population is probably the worst thing that could happen to Boris if it translates into a collapse in London residential property prices.

it's also starts to reduce the excuse need for HS2.

The corresponding shift in Scottish numbers is also of note. Especially if having moved to Scotland, those people turn out not to be Tories. Or Unionists.

Following on from DGRs comment

Starmer will have years to reflect on his choices.

On a much more technical question, how does the EU tit for tat (a phrase I have chose to use very deliberately) mechanism work for tariffs and workers rights (I prefer the term business environment) ???

[quote ListeningQuietly]Following on from DGRs comment

[/quote] Probably my #1 zeitgeist song. I can remember it in the charts as Brixton burned.

DGR
I grew up in South London.
Its one of those songs that sends shivers down the spine, whether or not you particularly like it or the band.

And in more Friday afternoon mode
From the Lymington Times

Fucking TUNE dgr