What have we gained by Brexit/leaving the EU?

[Elephant4]

In simple terms.

I've read so much about what we've lost.

Please no sarcastic comments. I just want to know what we've gained - probably best if those who think Brexit is a positive thing post.

[AethelsWhiteGoose]

We will be poorer as a country, that is the bottom line. I do think the penny is finally dropping now.

I feel pity for the Eel company owner, but the info was out there behind the soundbites, flag waving and headline lies.

[DoubleTweenQueen]

We are poorer in many ways on a personal level and for our children - fewer opportunities to study, live, work or set up a small business on the continent. We still hope to retire there, but that will be less available to many who won't be able to demonstrate level of self-funding needed to stay over 90days at once.

[LizzieSiddal]

I think the only good thing to come from Brexit will be the naive public stop believing the lies put out by politicians and the right wing media. Maybe they will begin to question the bullshit (350m for the NHS) rather than swallow it up.

[PlanDeRaccordement]

@Peregrina
Exactly. And JRMs ~£100m fortune sequestered in the tax shelter of Singapore in Singaporean $ rose in value by an additional £10m due to the referendum which caused the £ to decline in value by 10% (and from which it has still not recovered. It’s still trading at 10% lower value than it had pre2016 referendum).
The decline in the value of the £ and the negative economic consequences of a Leave vote result were well known and predicted by economists.
So, I’d argue that JRMs backing leave had more to do with his personal financial interest in making the pound worth less. He knew he’d personally add millions to his fortune by pushing the £ value and U.K. economy down.

[TerryHearn]

When we joined in with Europe did all of its benefits come immediately or were they funnily enough built up over about 50 years?

Strange that.

[GhostofFrankGrimes]

When we joined in with Europe did all of its benefits come immediately or were they funnily enough built up over about 50 years?

When the UK joined it was the sick man of Europe. It now leaves the EU and the most prosperous trading block in the world during a pandemic which has already hammered the economy. Inspiring stuff.

[DoubleTweenQueen]

@TerryHearn There are many studies published that go into a lot of detail about the gains of our accession to the then EEC, and potential pitfalls of leaving the now EU - look them up?

[Peregrina]

When we joined in with Europe did all of its benefits come immediately or were they funnily enough built up over about 50 years?

That's not the point though. The Leavers told us it would be better immediately- £350 million a week for the NHS remember? Not £350 million in 50 years time.

[TerryHearn]

There are 2 facts.

1 - you had your chance. You blew it. Plastering over half of the country with a racist tag and putting your fingers in your ears to anything you didn’t agree with.
2 - you aren’t calling the shots anymore. If you really want to change things try to change the situation via our voting system. That’s how our democracy works. Stop wittering on here making the same mistakes you did at the time of the referendum. More racist claims and fingers in the ears stuff. You will never ever learn.

[DoubleTweenQueen]

@TerryHearn You haven’t quoted any facts, just a bit of a rant

[Jaichangecentfoisdenom]

@GhostofFrankGrimes

When we joined in with Europe did all of its benefits come immediately or were they funnily enough built up over about 50 years?

When the UK joined it was the sick man of Europe. It now leaves the EU and the most prosperous trading block in the world during a pandemic which has already hammered the economy. Inspiring stuff.

Absolutely this.

And still waiting for that long, specific, list of the obvious, immediate, benefits of Brexit for the average voter in the UK. (Blue/black passports made in France don't count.)

[TheABC]

@TerryHearn, you won. Own it.

Now, since I am not calling the shots anymore, tell me what I have to look forward to.

[Mistigri]

Oh, more angry winners.

What are they so angry about?

Is it because they didn't get their fish back?

[DoubleTweenQueen]

@Mistigirl It’s because weird people keep telling them the Emperor is ridiculously naked

[TerryHearn]

A lot of anger on this thread. None of it from the leave side....

[LittleBearPad]

That’s the funny thing about many Brexiteers. They’re so angry.

It’s almost like they realise they were sold a pup.

[DoubleTweenQueen]

Oh dear - you know there’s nowhere to go when the gaslighting starts

[LittleBearPad]

@TerryHearn

There are 2 facts.

1 - you had your chance. You blew it. Plastering over half of the country with a racist tag and putting your fingers in your ears to anything you didn’t agree with.
2 - you aren’t calling the shots anymore. If you really want to change things try to change the situation via our voting system. That’s how our democracy works. Stop wittering on here making the same mistakes you did at the time of the referendum. More racist claims and fingers in the ears stuff. You will never ever learn.

Angry ☝🏻

[Mistigri]

"^you had your chance. You blew it"

"you aren’t calling the shots anymore"

"Stop wittering on here"

"Better put their dummy back in"^

Cool, calm, magnanimous eh?

Seriously: what's biting you? Do you need to take your blood pressure tablets every time a woman disagrees with you?

[Mistigri]

Honestly I have never seen such a bunch of bad winners in my life.

[LittleBearPad]

Well they weren’t meant to win were they.

Vote Brexit, give David Cameron a bloody nose and carry on whining about bendy bananas and refighting the Second World War.

[Toptotoeunicolour]

[quote PlanDeRaccordement]@Toptotoeunicolour
Here is what JRM said when asked when will effects of Brexit be known:

Rees-Mogg: “We will know at some point, of course we will. But it’s a question of timescale.”

Guru-Murthy: “So how long have you got?”

Rees-Mogg: “We won’t know the full economic consequences for a very long time, we really won’t.”

Guru-Murthy: “Of course not, but I mean we’ll have an indication. We’ll know if there’s been chaos, we’ll know if there have been job losses.”

Rees-Mogg: “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.”

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jacob-rees-mogg-economy-brexit_uk_5b54e3b5e4b0de86f48e3566?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJJbMGS75CDZPbElM-VKBJE7jal1AUTRKHkqPh10ENHc2MPH4ebIBjYZ2Ua9cB5rcfiVAxHtx4UtzSFZsI3HHhqDoYk5T9O11vpVtShDabmyzaaNe5KtgjvGN3bmZpbDjFZZNQMzUIEioIMNg9ttg04O7dtj5eXe6J-58-GHmBMN[/quote]
That sounds more like it, and I think when specifying later or earlier than that text he said :"the full benefits will not be known for 50 years" which of course is a completely reasonable statement. It has been twisted many times on these threads to mean that there will be no benefits until 50 years which of course is rubbish, and to misquote like that just undermined the remainer case more than ever.

[FestiveFannyGallops]

Ok, forget a list of benefits, just state one that will be realised in the next 12 months. I ask because I really want there to be one. Except the blue passports because the colour of a passport makes no actual difference.

[Toptotoeunicolour]

@LittleBearPad

Well they weren’t meant to win were they.

Vote Brexit, give David Cameron a bloody nose and carry on whining about bendy bananas and refighting the Second World War.

If that were true, it would have been reversed in the following GE, or in the one after that, or the European elections, right? I'm afraid your leaders let you down consistently - not the other voters, but your own Remain figureheads.

[LittleBearPad]

You think Jeremy Corbin would have won the last elections - either of them.

You’re daft.