How can remainers get behind Brexit and pull together ?

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What does this mean in practical terms ? What do I need to actually do to achieve pulling together and getting behind Brexit ? Why does it matter if I and the rest of the 48 million don't ?

Of course, the Conservatives pull this smearing the opposition tactic every election

What party doesn’t did that?

"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time"

This feels like a fitting quote somehow

I take some comfort from the statement that "All Political Careers end in Failure." I think it's very true for Senior Government figures.

I also take comfort from the person who said that the authority of a PM can suddenly drain away. Blair - Iraq war, Cameron - botched unnecessary referendum, May botched unnecessary election. What unnecessary botch will Johnson make?

Thatcher was elected in '79 with a 43 seat majority, within 2 years she had a 16% approval rating.
Johnson will push ahead with HS2 and Heathrow, news reports are saying he is keen on a Mansion tax and cuts to pensions relief.

Should Coronavirus become take hold in the UK, the NHS will not cope, the 130 people flown out of China yesterday are being housed in a MK conference centre!!!!
Tory cuts and under funding in the NHS/GP services will become very clear....anyone see the Sunday Times report on CV by a virologist?

Brexit may turn out to be a minor issue for Johnson!!!

What is going to be interesting is seeing how Johnson copes with not being liked.

He's quite a fragile flower really and the stress of not having that aspect of his identity verified might be quite difficult for him.

But then he always has Cummings...leading from the rear.

This is very much, "Events, dear boy, events."

Thatcher was elected in '79 with a 43 seat majority, within 2 years she had a 16% approval rating

But won the 1987 election with a 104 majority.

Should Coronavirus become take hold in the UK, the NHS will not cope, the 130 people flown out of China yesterday are being housed in a MK conference centre!!!!
Tory cuts and under funding in the NHS/GP services will become very clear...

Johnson can just blame the previous government (that he was part of) the voters swallowed it last time. And he'll just lie and that works really well for him.

The previous government that he was part of, @KenDodd?

The Tories have been in power for over a decade now. There comes a point when the lies no longer substitute for the on-ground reality.

It's a culture war. You pick a side and you stick with it, not matter what. Austerity didnt wake people up because the nationalistic pull of brexit promises a brighter future.

Johnson can just blame the previous government (that he was part of) the voters swallowed it last time. And he'll just lie and that works really well for him

Not sure, the ABC effect was very strong down here, my two local (and very poor) tory MPs doubled their majorities, Corbyn turned off an awful lot of voters (considered a terrorist sympathiser/ anti british) and Swinsons policy of Revoke (completely misunderstood by the electorate) did for her.

A decent Labour leader "might" hold Johnson to account better than Corbyn who was subjected to slur after slur....anyone noticed that the media seem to have completely forgotten about Labour's anti semitism issues, expect them to resurface once a new leader is in place.
BUT if its not Starmer, then Johnson may well emulate Thatcher's second GE win without engineering a war!

then Johnson may well emulate Thatcher's second GE win without engineering a war!

Adds weight to the view that National Pride is what wins votes.

TheABC
Chris Chope was given a knighthood and told to sod off to the Lords because his Friday afternoon escapades were an embarrassment.

Instead he stood again and was re elected with a massive majority

Voters do not use analysis and facts to make their decisions (sadly)

anyone noticed that the media seem to have completely forgotten about Labour's anti semitism issues, expect them to resurface once a new leader is in place

I certainly had noticed that jasjas, I spent hours on MN during the GE campaign arguing, as a jew, that a lot of the outrage was a disgusting smear tactic and had nothing to do with any genuine concern about anti-semitism or racism generally. Told I was a self-hating jew defending the indefensible etc but as soon as the election result was in, all mention of the subject dropped.

I brought it up on the pub-thread recently as the regulars had been constantly bashing about Corbyn the anti-semite in the GE run-up but they had no comment strangely

JasJas
Did you read the webchats with Emily Thornberry and Keir Starmer?
At the moment Labour HQ is saying and doing nothing
but depending who wins the leadership election, I suspect quite a few HQ and PLP staffers will be packing their bags very fast.

There comes a point when the lies no longer substitute for the on-ground reality.

I'm really not so sure about that anymore. BJ has told lie after lie after lie. I can't think of a single one that's damaged him. Ironically, I think it's only if he started telling the truth (Brexit was a shit idea and I only backed it to further my career) would he be in trouble.

Plus, in Brexit Britain, it's become unpatriotic even traitorous, to not go along wholeheartedly with the lies.

it's become unpatriotic even traitorous, to not go along wholeheartedly with the lies.

What does that remind us of, I wonder?