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Brexit

Saying goodbye to the EU

192 replies

Parker231 · 28/01/2020 12:36

Am listening to Radio Five Live and one of the topics is what would you say in your goodbye to the EU?

Mine would be - relived to an EU country passport holder and remain as a supporter of the EU. Hoping that the UK will rejoin.

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MysteryTripAgain · 30/01/2020 18:44

What "sub standard" goods will be coming from the EU

Meant sub standard goods from outside the EU arriving in NI because they know there is an easy passage over into Ireland. Once in Ireland they could end up anywhere in the EU.

Farmgrl1111 · 30/01/2020 18:45

Bye bye

Clavinova · 30/01/2020 19:32

What "sub standard" goods will be coming from the EU, its the UK that wants to diverge from standards.

Last year it was, "Unsafe Polish meat exported to 12 EU countries"

www.politico.eu/article/unsafe-polish-meat-exported-to-12-eu-countries/

malylis · 30/01/2020 19:37

I don't think the UK has much leg to stand on with unsafe meat.

Remember BSE?

If there is no deal, NI remains in the customs union, the border goes down the Irish sea.

MysteryTripAgain · 30/01/2020 19:42

If there is no deal, NI remains in the customs union, the border goes down the Irish sea

How does that prevent goods from outside the EU arriving in NI directly?

malylis · 30/01/2020 19:45

Because they will have to clear customs to get into NI.

jasjas1973 · 30/01/2020 19:53

Last year it was, "Unsafe Polish meat exported to 12 EU countries"

Meat withdrawn ... "The European Commission is sending health experts to Poland on Monday to monitor how Warsaw deals with the scandal" ......systems worked...

Unlike UK.....

www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2013/09/13/Ham-from-butchers-suspected-source-of-Salmonella-illnesses

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11814600

ListeningQuietly · 30/01/2020 20:01

Find the tariff code for it is all I have to say at this stage

Sallysaved · 30/01/2020 20:43

Clavinova.. They only care if its chlorinated chicken from the the states 😂🐔.

For years I've been posting about poor farming practise, slaughter house conditions, pig farming across the eu, battery chickens.

I've been posting about general shitty food standards, that diverge from the the eu rhetoric on food standards. They prove hollow because the eu has no teeth no mechanism to visit and punish these farms.

The only way the eu can enforce standards more effectively is... Ever closer union.

We have some of the highest farming standards in the world.

Do we still have scandels! Do we still have rouges who slip through the net!! Yes we do.
But we try, we investigate, we have higher standards than poorer eu countries.

Sallysaved · 30/01/2020 20:45

Ah sorry jas I didn't get see the your post
Of course... We have a dodgy butcher so it's best to allow all the horse meat and whatever from the eu in....

But whatever we do do.. Never ever a chlorinated chicken!!

malylis · 30/01/2020 21:09

The majority of food coming from all EU countries is of a high standard.

Horse meat was an Europe wide scandal down to dodgy labelling by one Dutch firm.

Cholrinated chicken is an example of the far, far.lower standards that apply to US food.

Good luck to UK farmers competing with Us agri business.

frumpety · 30/01/2020 21:27

I don't think we are saying goodbye to the EU really , its more of a 'we are just going to sit over here and sulk for a while'.
All the countries we want to trade with ( who are not in the EU) are either too far away to make it logistically expedient or so much bigger and more powerful than us, making it unlikely we will get anything near as good a deal to make up for the loss of being a member state of the EU. Or in the case of Africa , other countries like China got there first.
Apparently the fact we can try, more than makes up for the fact that we probably shouldn't.

MysteryTripAgain · 31/01/2020 09:09

Because they will have to clear customs to get into NI

NI is part of UK. If UK trades on WTO and WTO rules regarding the most favoured nation priniple are not enforceable, then substandard goods can be blocked on UK mainland, but allowed to enter NI.

That would be very attractive for smugglers as there is easy passage from NI into Ireland and hence into the EU. The only way tp prevent that would be the the EU to install a border between NI and Ireland like those in Eastern Europe.

malylis · 31/01/2020 09:16

You haven't understood the withdrawl agreement.

NI stays aligned with the EU and there will be customs checks between the UK and NI in the event of no trade deal being completed.

SoCrimeaRiver · 31/01/2020 09:55

There's a couple of court cases ongoing to see whether EU membership can be unilaterally withdrawn from UK citizens who wish to keep it, I think one in Holland and one in this country, on the basis that EU citizenship is separate to any national citizenship. Will be interesting to see how they get on.

MysteryTripAgain · 31/01/2020 10:04

NI stays aligned with the EU and there will be customs checks between the UK and NI in the event of no trade deal being completed

Between UK and NI yes, but how does that prevent goods arriving in NI directly from outside the EU without passing through the UK?

An open border between NI and ROI is smugglers paradise.

malylis · 31/01/2020 10:06

Goods from outside the EU, including those from the UK wilk subject to trade barriers. Tariffs, NTBs, quotas, rules of origin etc etc.

Just like they are for any EU port right now.

AndThenThereWereSeven · 31/01/2020 10:07

Hopeful rejoined here too.

derxa · 31/01/2020 10:08

In Scotland a lot of us are saying " Leave a light on for us to find our way home." This was first said by Alyn Smith, now my local MP, in the European parliament last year & sums up how many of us feel. Not me

MysteryTripAgain · 31/01/2020 10:08

Goods from outside the EU, including those from the UK wilk subject to trade barriers. Tariffs, NTBs, quotas, rules of origin etc etc

So NI is going to police every inch of their coastline?

derxa · 31/01/2020 10:18

when Farage et al turned their backs during the European anthem You've got to ask yourself why the EU have an anthem. They're not a country.

malylis · 31/01/2020 10:22

You don't have to be a country to have an anthem.

Chersfrozenface · 31/01/2020 10:27

The Olympics have an anthem. The Rugby World Cup has an anthem. UNICEF has an anthem. ASEAN (a regional intergovernmental organisation comprising ten countries in Southeast Asia) has an anthem.

jasjas1973 · 31/01/2020 10:29

Liverpool FC have an Anthem?

Anyone would think the EU had banned national anthems and we all had to sing Ode to Joy or be shot.

malylis · 31/01/2020 10:30

Ahhh the ignorance shines through once more.

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