Saying goodbye to the EU

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Am listening to Radio Five Live and one of the topics is what would you say in your goodbye to the EU?

Mine would be - relived to an EU country passport holder and remain as a supporter of the EU. Hoping that the UK will rejoin.

You've got to ask yourself why the EU have an anthem. They're not a country

Maybe, but still childish behaviour.

Its a great pity modern european history hasn't been taught in uk schools over recent decades.

The founding reason of the EEC was to prevent the many wars that have raged through europe for centuries, where as most in the UK think its a power grab by the 4th Reich

Yes agree, turning ones back on the anthem of the organisation thats pays kipper MEPs 100s of 1000s of euros per year is silly.

I am sorry our Farage lot behaved so badly.
I don’t feel sentimental about the EU, it is a legal and economic entity and I remain a European as well as a Brit.

But oh, EU, I would love it if you could retain your Auld Lang Syne dignity and generosity and not gloat or be vengeful as you watch our country sink into an economic struggle from which we can only rescue ourselves by kow towing to the USA, Russia and China.

It's something I cannot get my head around, how the Brexit Company's MEP's have behaved in the EU Parliament.

I am so embarrassed for them, but I cannot understand in what way they think behaving like that will help oil they cogs of new trade agreements, the ones we desperately need.

Are they all so far down the rabbit hole, supping of the Kool Aid, believing of the sanctity of being British that they are deeply confident all will cleave before them, blinded by the sheer brilliance of the pure white light shining forth from their hallowed visage?

As I have said on many occasions, sadly, this country, England, needs the kicking that's coming its way. It needs to recalibrate its sense of place in the world, its sense of its own importance, but it appears the only model we have to do that, having rejected our ability to influence the EU from within, is via national humiliation, with a hefty dollop of humble pie.

We have via history been permitted seats on top tables we no longer deserve.

It's almost like we need to go through this humiliating ritual in order to reform ourselves as a modern nation, with the relative unimportance of any small island on the edge of a chilly ocean and of a trading superpower, unencumbered by the Little Englander triumphal jingoism that got us to where we are.

Obviously, my sympathies lie entirely with those who were grown up enough to see this without needing the slapping that's coming; and I can only hope those who chose to visit this on the rest of us are man enough to own it, and accept the first redundancies.

Good luck, hopefully we won't see the UK again in the EU. I'm truly sorry for the millions of British citizens who understood that as problematic, challenging, diverse and down right maddening the EU can be, the goals are still beautiful.... promote peace, values, offer freedom, security and justice without internal borders.

Frankly most Europeans by now have had enough of Britain to last us a lifetime. The EU needs to move forward with the issues that seriously will impact its citizens like climate, digitalisation, world trading and political and security integration without the British always holding it back.

Again, good luck and farewell. You are on your own now.

You don't have to be a country to have an anthem. No but the EU is a political organisation composed of individual countries. Anyway it's not 'ignorant' to be mildly annoyed by arrogance. As for singing Auld Lang Syne... As I keep saying I wish we were not leaving the EU but having anthem is a bit vainglorious.

Alondra I must have been watching a different EP sessions to you on Wednesday. All the MEPs that I heard (I watch the whole thing, but can't claim to remember every single contribution) said the UK will be missed and accepted back if it changes its mind.

From The New Statesman

What he says.

Danetobe, don't put too much emphasis what EU politicians say at a farewell time - it's diplomacy at its best. Look at face of Mairead McGuiness saying "take the flags with you" to Farage, it represents what many Europeans thinks of Brexit - go, good luck and close the door behind you.

Can Britain be accepted back in the EU? Sure. But first the membership will have to approved unanimously and the conditions for entry will be such, Britain will have to be on its knees to accept.

Alondra I agree. I don't think the EU should even consider readmission til the UK has learned a few manners.

twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1223175366421946369?s=20

Miljea, it's not a question of manners, it's simply common sense. It took years to convince France agreeing to the UK to join the then Common Market. Many people have forgotten that when UK joined, it was considered the "poor cousin" of Europe. Britain was in serious financial difficulties with a very high unemployment rate. Trust me, Europe, and most specially France, won't make the same mistake again.

Yeah I think its clear that there is miscommunication and misunderstanding everywhere. Time will tell.

I don't get a sense from the local population here that there is a need or desire for further integration. Indeed only a few weeks ago there was was a little groan of dismay over some maternity reforms. Again, we shall see.

I reckon the UK will go full head banging market liberalisation. I don't even think Blowjob wants an EU deal. The mans a prolific liar. It will be very very interesting to see how the EU responds, cos that shit can't be ignored.

From WW veterans at the Cliffs of Dover:
m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=641666026650524&id=374151396735323

It took years to convince France agreeing to the UK to join the then Common Market

That was due to De Gualle objections over UK's close association with the US and development of nuclear weapons.

Many people have forgotten that when UK joined, it was considered the "poor cousin" of Europe

That was in 1973 when EU consisted of only 6 members. In 2016, when the referendum was held, EU had grown to 28 members. 10 that pay in and 18 that take out.

UK is the third largest donor (soon to be was) to the EU, but has massive trade deficit with the EU. Take a look at

trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2013/december/tradoc_151969.pdf

All the UK figures are negative for trade with the EU. How can that be if they are the third largest donor? Would have thought that the third largest donor would make a profit for it to make sense.

Germany is the largest donor and has the largest profit which makes sense.

Take a look at France who is the second largest donor. They too have a huge deficit with the EU. Not surprising that some in France also want a referendum on EU membership.

Then look at Czechia, who is a net taker from the EU, and yet they have a trade surplus from the EU!

Little wonder that some say the UK is a cash cow for the EU. Numbers in the attached link support that statement.

Britain was in serious financial difficulties with a very high unemployment rate.

Look at face of Mairead McGuiness saying "take the flags with you" to Farage, it represents what many Europeans thinks of Brexit - go, good luck and close the door behind you

Watch the 4 April 2019 episode of Question Time and look at her face when the guy sitting next to her said that Ireland had over played their hand and a no deal would be more problematic for Ireland than the UK. She did not dispute it nor present a counter argument.

without the British always holding it back

UK bought more from the EU than it sold to the EU and was the third largest donor. How did that hold the EU back?

But first the membership will have to approved unanimously and the conditions for entry will be such, Britain will have to be on its knees to accept

Conditions of entry are common to all applicants. They are not adjusted depending on which Country has applied to join the EU.

Peregrane, I've seen the video of WW veterans and frankly, it represents some of the differences between us. I don't think in 2020 many Europeans identify with ninety year old veterans no matter how emotional the message.

I don't think in 2020 many Europeans identify with ninety year old veterans no matter how emotional the message

Some events will be remembered forever and never forgiven.

Mystery, are you a troll ....a bot? Man, you can type crap.

@Alondra

Your posts today suggest that you are secretly huffed that UK will leave the EU today.

Ridiculous - my grandparents lived through the occupation in Belgium. They never held the Germans responsible, just the nazis.