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Brexit

Any other remainers planning to leave?

254 replies

BananaBlaps · 20/12/2019 15:05

We’re lucky as DH can apply for Australian citizenship. Feeling so angry about the state of the county upping sticks seems like an extreme but satisfying plan!

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BoswellSolver · 20/12/2019 15:06

Hahaaa.....no! Why are you leaving for a country who has far bigger racism issues than here, and uses a far stricter immigration policy!?
Weird.

BananaBlaps · 20/12/2019 15:06

Can also be New Zealand or Singapore apparently. But yes I take your point!

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Songsofexperience · 20/12/2019 15:08

It seems counter intuitive but I think the last thing remainers should do is leave. I'm staying put (And I have another citizenship). Now's not the time to quit the debate (no matter how dispiriting and hopeless it all seems).

Velveteenfruitbowl · 20/12/2019 15:10

@BoswellSolver Britain is way way more racist than Australia. I’ve lived in both a long time. Maybe you are confusing xenophobia with racism?

OP I don’t think you’ll like Australia. Australia beat Britain to it and had austrexit over a hundred years ago after all. I think you’ll find that few people in Australia think that Europe is the centre of the world (and many are shocked when they realise how the EU actually works). Australia is more right wing than Europe and much more hardcore liberal. Also don’t underestimate the cultural differences. Don’t be one of those annoying poms that turns up and carries on like they’re living in Britain, no body likes those.

BlaueLagune · 20/12/2019 15:25

If it were just me, I'd have already gone. But my son is at school and my mum and husband would not move (well my mum would go to Ireland but not to Germany, which is where I would have probably gone).

After the referendum I did seriously look at the possibility of moving to Hamburg - I could do my then job from anywhere, my husband's work have an office there, and there are international schools there where my son could have done his GCSEs and A levels.

Not sure if we made the right decision not to go. I hope that either the associate citizenship idea gains some traction or that EEA member states realise that our youngsters didn't have a vote over any of this, and keep job and study opportunities open for them even if they close them for everyone else.

Personally I think anyone who was born in the UK/to British parents or became a British citizen while the UK was in the EEA/EC/EU should retain their EU rights (wouldn't help me as I am 9 months too old but at least ds would keep his). It's wrong that people have consistently voted against losing their rights and are going to lose them regardless.

BlaueLagune · 20/12/2019 15:26

And I can't go anywhere else because I can't get the points. I might have managed it for Canada while I was under 45 but not any more.

AuldAlliance · 20/12/2019 16:39

Is the attitude of many Australians towards the indigenous population of Australia xenophobia, rather than racism? How does xenophobia work if you're in their country but call it yours?

dimsum123 · 20/12/2019 16:51

I would love to leave right now. But we're tied in to schools/education for at 7/8 years.

After that we were planning to retire abroad and I hope we will still be able to do that. But we always thought the DCs would stay here as they'd have good opportunities for jobs etc but I'm just not sure now.

And the anti immigrant rhetoric is very upsetting. I've been here for 47 years and have always been grateful that my parents were able to move here. I consider myself British and have always felt the UK to be one of the best countries in the world to live in despite it's imperfections which are minor compared to the vast majority of the rest of the world.

I'm so sad and worried and depressed about what is happening here and have no idea what the future holds in store for my DCs, especially if we have 10 years of BJ.

The country I knew and loved seems to be slowly disappearing before my eyes....Sad

MadeinBelfast · 20/12/2019 16:54

I'm not planning to leave but the likelihood of a United Ireland seems much higher now so I may end up leaving the UK without even having to move.

SayOohLaLa · 20/12/2019 16:56

I would have happily gone but DH won't consider it until his elderly aunt dies (he emigrated with his parents as a child, twice and doesn't feel it would be fair on the aunt to remove the only children now in the wider family) and we'd need greater savings. I'd be running for Germany or New Zealand. This just isn't the country I thought it was, and to be fair I don't think it's the country the Brexiteers think it is either. They'll discover in time just how small a country we really are alone.

AutumnRose1 · 20/12/2019 16:56

I have a passionate Remainer friend who has done this already - got in under the points system which she finds so awful if we adopt it.

she is doing fine but has expressed surprised that politics is similar everywhere....

AutumnRose1 · 20/12/2019 16:57

oh and she's weirded out by "hot Christmas" Grin

SunnySomer · 20/12/2019 16:58

Hmmm. We all have a second nationality (DH = EU; me and DC European but not EU). We weren’t really actively thinking about it until last Friday. And now I’d say we’re properly toying with the idea.

Hoppinggreen · 20/12/2019 16:58

DH and the Dc have due all British/German nationality, DH could very easily get a job there (he’s had offers) but only he speaks German, DD is in Y10 so starting GCSEs and my Mum is elderly and unwell
Wouldn’t rule it out if everything goes to shit though

Baaaahhhhh · 20/12/2019 17:07

Thing is the grass is not always greener. Read some European press, every country has it's issues at the moment.

Out of my very diverse friendship group, which includes Germans, Italians, Greeks, Eastern Europeans of all types, South Africans, New Zealanders, and Australians, none are planning to move/return.

CustardT · 20/12/2019 17:12

I’m planning to move to Portugal in 2.5 years when my youngest finishes school.

I don’t want to live under a right wing govt. I don’t want to brexit. But will stay here till DS finishes school.

randomsabreuse · 20/12/2019 17:14

Certainly considering a move to Scotland. It's not so much Brexit as the lurch to the right and feeling out of step with the majority who want Brexit done (good luck with that) and just swallow the lies without thinking.

beautifulstranger101 · 20/12/2019 17:15

Moving your entire life to another country is not exactly easy. Not everyone's jobs can be transferred so easily. Mine can't. I find it odd people would move for that reason alone tbh. Its not like other countries dont have their own issues to deal with (eg racism, economic instability etc)

ViveLEntenteCordiale · 20/12/2019 17:42

Luckily we've left already, although I'm sure there will be a lot of expensive bureaucracy in our future.

We won't be coming back. I think leave voters should be banned from ever living in Europe.

dimsum123 · 20/12/2019 17:44

It's true the grass is not always greener, but like a PP, I am out of step with the majority of the country, Brexit is not going to 'get done' anytime soon. The NHS is going to privatised slowly but surely and imo we will end up as a tiny outpost of the USA.

The grass isn't greener so I may as well be somewhere equally as awful but with better weather and nice food Wink

yellowallpaper · 20/12/2019 19:15

Bye bye. And make sure you take a few face masks with you. I've heard it's pretty warm and the air is smoke polluted down under.

yellowallpaper · 20/12/2019 19:15

Friends say it's 32 C at night.

dimsum123 · 20/12/2019 19:32

I'm not planning on going to Australia!

IpanemaGallina · 20/12/2019 19:40

Well the dc need to finish secondary school in UK but I’m glad we have other options (passports) as a family yes.

DyingDeclaration · 20/12/2019 19:50

Definitely planning to get Irish passports sorted for DH and kids. Sadly not an option for me but I work for a massive German company so a stint out there isn't impossible if we get ourselves organised and the impact in the company I work for in the uk is as bad as anticipated 😔