Any other remainers planning to leave?

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We’re lucky as DH can apply for Australian citizenship. Feeling so angry about the state of the county upping sticks seems like an extreme but satisfying plan!

I voted Remain, but I have lived through decades of elections/votes not going my way. The sky hasn't fallen in yet.

I feel quite optimistic for the future. Possibly because I am not in London and we might now get a bit of money spent on our infrastructure etc.
There's so much gnashing of teeth before we have had time for things to fall apart. Let's wait and see or quietly bog off if you want to.

Money from where, Elfnsafe1y?

Exactly Math.

The government’s own research shows that we will be economically worse off elfnsafe.

We tried in the summer to go to France but the job offer fell through. I became Irish in November, it took a year. DH and DC are already Irish.

I applied through my Grand Dad.
His Birth, Marriage and Death Certificate.
Mums Birth and Marriage certificate
My Birth and Marriage certificate.

Friend is a bank manager signed the forms

quietly bog off if you want to the problem is we won't be able to unless there is a complete about turn about FoM and the single market/customs union.

I assume the gov is borrowing money, interest rates v low.

No. We're in Scotland so still holding out hope there may be another path to retaining EU membership.

So all of you who are leaving, what will you do when your new country elects a government you disagree with, or does something else you don't like?

Have been planning our move since the referendum.
We’ll be leaving next year, once our eldest is settled at university.
I’m a child of windrush-era migrants and I’m heartsick to say it but my birth country is now somewhere I’m loath to raise my children.

DH and I both have transferable jobs. We’re going halfway across the world to a small island with a progressive, internationalist outlook, good schools and a caring attitude towards the vulnerable.
I don’t think any of those things apply to England any more.

Sleight I know you won’t want to say but I’m now trying to figure out where it is

If you can guess which ocean it’s in, I’ll PM you

One of my young DC is living and working in an Eastern Bloc country not because of the government there or the great quality of life there but because that is where the jobs are.

Mary we moved here because of good job opportunities which could well be a result of rational evidence-based government. If something better comes up elsewhere that I want to pursue I will. If Brexit and 'rip up the rule book' government is a massive success and great job opportunities follow I'll no doubt consider moving back in the future, I'm sceptical but, as a Brit, of course hopeful 😬. My sympathy to those who may be reading who don't have options.

'rip up the rule book' government

What 'rule book' is the government ripping up?

I assume the gov is borrowing money, interest rates v low

You need to reconsider that!
Current acc deficit is already almost 2 trillion and would prevent us joining the Euro (if we so desired!!!) at 85% of GDP.

Interest rates don't always stay low and we've recently been downgraded by the credit agencies...... our finances our already shite, Treasury forecast is a 7% drop in GDP following a EU FTA, this promised investment wont happen... so no mention of 6 new hospitals in Queens speech, let alone the 40 promised! and where exactly are the staff?

Leavers and remainer seem to exist in alternate realities now so I don't think there is any point in trying to explain how I believe this and the previous government are breaking established conventions. I apologise, i know it will be frustrating to not get an answer, just as it's frustrating to hear (as a remainer) that the benefits of Brexit include sovereignty and control?!? It's unexplainable twaddle to me 😅.

DH and I have transferrable jobs. The prospect of what Brexit could do to NI is horrifying.
We’re hoping to be gone by the end of 2020. If the UK wants to screw itself if can do it without the futures of my children as its dildo.

I would not mind the Government I did not vote for, as I did not mind it in 2010. But the issue for me is not the Government of the wrong colour, but brexit itself, more precisely its effect on my life, the fact that I will lose my rights as an EU citizen to live in other 27 countries, and the fact that it won't be reversed in 5 years, when the next election comes (Johnson now wants to stay at least 10 and I am not getting younger). So it is not about the election result (that is up for a change every 5 years), it is about irreversible change of leaving the EU and losing the rights I already have. Strange that it is not obvious and needs explaining.

Regarding cancer treatment in the US

Cancer is costly, emotionally and socially. But it's especially pricey in terms of money. The stress of being unable to pay for treatment doesn't help your immune system while going through chemotherapy or radiation. It's impossible to relieve yourself of tension when your medical costs are bankrupting you and your family

Substitute the US for the UK and this describes how Dp has been treated under the NHS.

We can afford the operation that the NHS would not perform and the specialised Chemo treatment that we hope has bought him 4 more years at least.
But if we couldn’t afford it then Dp would have been dead by now.

Same here. Close family member in the UK needed an urgent scan. Waited weeks for the scan, weeks for the results and had to keep chasing, 6 weeks to see a specialist and appointments were cancelled without telling him. Went private and had scans done within 24 hours and consultant seen within 48 hours. No on the right treatment path. Should have gone private straight away and not wasted time thinking he would be treated by the NHS.

To balance the tales of woe DH had a mass in his chest. Absolute bugger to get a sample from - they tried endoscopy, ct guided biopsy, bone marrow biopsy and a mediastinoscopy before finally having to collapse a lung and go keyhole into the chest. All on the NHS and the waiting was clinically necessary for recovery time between the ops before chemo. The last op needed HDU bed availability...

Then he had 6 cycles of chemo and all the ancillary antibiotics/anti emetics and steroids all free.

Unlike in the US he didn't have to work to keep his insurance active and had substantial protection from losing his job...

Even the co pays would have bankrupted us in the US... plus the massively increased future insurance premiums!

Having an insurance model also undermine trust in medical professionals. It wouldn't be a step forward in my opinion even though I consider myself centre right politically. In my personal opinion it's social care and public health that needs mega investment not the NHS itself.

Should have gone private straight away and not wasted time thinking he would be treated by the NHS.

This is exactly the regret of now widowed FIL

Took her months and months of pain and not being treated before she died