To feel so fucking depressed and angry about brexit?

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I'm Scottish. I voted to remain. It feels like nothing I vote for matters. I despise Farage and Johnstone. I despise the call for sovereignty certain parts of England still believe in. I despise of the right wing media.

I really feel this country is fucked, unless you have money behind you and beside you.

Brexit has changed the future I hoped for my children. I now hope they will become as highly educated as possible, then leave the country to live somewhere better. Without being very highly skilled they'll no longer have the option to move abroad thanks to a bunch of racists obsessed with ending their freedom of movement.

It’s a fucking shitshow.

I'm so pissed off by it.

I will never understand poor and vulnerable people voting for well, Brexit is one thing, but also Boris Johnson and the Tories. How the fuck do they think their lives will be improved?

How do they watch that shambles of a baggy skin sack shouting and gesturing his way through a poorly delivered and incoherent speech and think he's good? Why do they think he cares about them?

The propaganda has worked beautifully. It's terrifying. My poor kids will have to deal with the repercussions of this for decades.

My vote doesn't count either. Tory safe seat. Fuck everything. I'm sickened by the lies and I'm sickened no one seemingly gives even the tiniest of shits about it anymore.

I will blame the people who voted for this for every one of the consequences, afterall, how many times have we heard them say they knew what they voted for. The Leavers I know don't even care if people start murdering each other again in NI though so I doubt they will care what I think or how much this will damage people.

Oh, are we doing anecdotes? I doubt mine will fit the narrative, but most Scottish remainers I know have treated brexit as another Anti English slant and when you get talking to them they fall firmly into this category.

www.heraldscotland.com/news/15817215.most-scots-want-to-curb-eu-immigration-after-brexit/

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/scotland-no-more-tolerant-of-immigrants-than-the-rest-of-uk-poll-finds-10099105.html

Agree with you. It’s beyond horrendous. Scotland at least has a chance of getting out of this with independence. I’m still hopeful the Tories won’t get a majority. If young people actually vote this time, it could be a game changer and tactical voting is essential.

If young people actually vote this time, it could be a game changer and tactical voting is essential.

I hope so.

Hang on, OP. Over a million Scots voted to leave and a third of the Scottish electorate couldn't be arsed voting. I'm an English remainer so you and I have more in common than you do with 2,325,921 of your fellow Scots.

I don't understand how people can't see how fucked up the country is and see how much worse it is going to get. A vast amount of people have forgotten what Brexit was in the first place and now just want out regardless of the cost to the UK.

I can't believe anyone would vote for a political party with Johnson, Reese Mogg and Farage affiliated to it. All the Tories seem to do is turn every answer round to it being Corbyn's fault. I was watching the politics show on BBC this morning and it was cringeworthy how they turned the trident question in to a freak show

I was watching the politics show on BBC this morning and it was cringeworthy how they turned the trident question in to a freak show

Journalism at the moment is hideous. They seem to be more concerned about shouting politicians down and trying to trick them into saying something, so they can go, ‘ha-you just said this!!’ rather than any sort of actual journalism.

The propaganda has worked beautifully.

This is a tired trope, there where many die hard labour strong holds that would never vote Tory even if their life depended on it.

To pretend it was because of propoganda is why Labour and the Ivory Tower socialists are struggling to accept that they want to clock neoliberal policies as looking after the working class.

The divisions caused is just as much to do with the aftermath than it is the actual vote, to still try and pretend it's all by propaganda shows that you don't really care yourself about the die hard labour constituents who voted leave. If they are gullible, it says more about not only your false sense of superiority but also labour being able to consistently rely on them for decades than it does about the bogey man of the right wing media.

YANBU

It's a total shit show. So true about Farage and Johnson masquerading as men of the people when they couldn't come from more privileged backgrounds. They are fully fledged members of the elite and want to keep it that way I'm sure that they literally think that the working classes are peasants.

Unfortunately people like simple black and white answers when it comes to politics and the Brexit messaging gives people just that. A lot of people simply do not have the time or desire to contemplate the fact that the country we live in and it's problems are actually very complicated and can't simply be solved by Brexit.

It is madness that we were all asked to vote on something so ridiculously complicated tbh. No matter what people say it did seem to be predominantly a vote against immigration. I do have some sympathy for the brexiters who live in communities which changed very quickly because of immigration putting much more pressure on local public services and changing the fabric of their communities. Of course leaving the EU presented them with a very simple solution. I don't think many of them gave any consideration to the far reaching consequences of their vote to leave and how it would impact the union or the Irish broader for example. They were putty in the their brexit campaign's hands.

On the other hand some people who voted brexit were just plain selfish, xenophobic, deeply conservative and deluded. They are the ones who are affluent and often live in areas with very low immigration and prattle on about the fact we are a very great country. They're the ones I really struggle with.

justanotherlurker
Exactly this.

How do they watch that shambles of a baggy skin sack shouting and gesturing his way through a poorly delivered and incoherent speech and think he's good?

^ This!

There was a woman on the local news earlier this evening saying she thought Johnson was the best prime minister since Winston Churchill! FFS.

It doesn’t matter what happens next. The damage has been done. Britain will never recover from this. We left the country, we had to. For anyone left in the UK your best years are now behind you.

Despair doesn't feel strong enough to describe how it feels. I'm English and voted remain. All I can say is at least you're in a majority up in Scotland, and will probably get the opportunity to leave the UK out of this. English remainers are stuck down here with the xenophobes and nationalists boasting about how they "won" while celebrating the country's slow demise. (Not all Leavers are xenophobic nationalists, before someone jumps in outraged).

I can't see things getting any better for a long, long time. It's genuinely frightening.

Completely agree with you, fellow Scot here. I literally do not know anyone who voted for Brexit. It's a shit show.

YANBU so depressing and also cannot believe the turkeys voting for Christmas 🤦‍♀️

I live (like most of Scotland) where the choice is either Conservative or SNP.

I voted remain AND no to Scottish independence. I'm really stuck.

I DO NOT want Nicola Sturgeon thinking an SNP vote is a vote for Scottish independence. It'd simply be (for me) an attempt to get a 2nd EU referendum.

I'm English I voted to leave. It feels like nothing I vote for matters.

Because 4 years on & we still haven’t fucking left!

YANBU.

Me to.

Half of the damage being done isnt being reported.

Thank fuck dirty!.. I'm glad we haven't yet, because leaving is a bloody stupid thing to do!

I hear you op. I’m Scottish, but have lived in mainland Europe for 12 years now. Brexit has taken my own and my children’s European nationality away from them, so we have no option but to apply for dual nationality if we want to stay here where we have made our lives. Freedom of movement has benefited my family hugely. My husband works with people from all over the EU, my kids are completely bilingual.

Britain has always been different though, séparate from Europe. While I hate Brexit and it’s a big PITA, it was always on the cards. The belief in British (English) exceptionalism is so strong. And this is the end result of that.

Hi OP, we've moved this over to the Brexit board.

June 2016 - Because 4 years on & we still haven’t fucking left! - it really isn't - as the americans say - do the math!

Me too

I absolutely cannot understand what there is to be gained from Brexit, and how the massive risk that is being taken can possibly be worth it, when it’s accepted by all that (even if things get good in the end) things will get much worse first

I don’t understand why there are so many people who think it’s a good idea, and what they think will be better

I’m also very annoyed at remainers who have said they want Brexit now because “it’s the will of the people”

I can’t stand the right wing, privileged, self serving, lying Tory front bench.

I don’t know why people accept the obvious lies from the government over and over again

I’ve no idea at all why struggling people think the likes of BJ, Raab, Rees Mogg, Farage and Cummings have any interest in making life better for them

I don’t know why it’s ok to have a PM without any integrity or statesmanship whatsoever

It’s like a fanatical religion, it makes no sense at all, and is deeply depressing

I’m scared for my children’s future