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Westminstenders: Dissolved.

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RedToothBrush · 06/11/2019 19:44

Parliament has formally been dissolved. We are now officially in an election period including purdah and spending limits. Not that all the parties haven't got campaign material out already to bypass the rules, making the rules a complete farce. And the government has made some very dodgy adverts about the fund for towns, 90% of which just happen to be marginals.

The Tory Campaign has got off to an interesting start with a dead cat dog whistle against Grenfell where many well educated people lived (Inc an architect), privately owned their property and just happened to be white. And fast asleep. I'm not sure about you but I don't tend to have huge amounts of 'common sense' when I'm snoring.

Apologies have of course been made. In true Trumpian / Bannon style. But the whistle was blown and made its desired point to its target audience. Expect many more examples before we get to the end of this campaign.

Of course the same day it was made public that the government have blocked the publication of a report into Russian Electoral Interference. Which is in no way connected to the massive amount of donations the Tory Party has been receiving lately and who Boris Johnson hangs out with.

This election is all about breaking 'The Red Wall' and the Tories taking Northern seats. So everyone between Birmingham and Cumbria is going to be particularly fed up by 12th December at people from London coming out with ridiculous stereotypes, and telling them how to vote. We await Corbyn and Johnson adopting flat caps and vowels whilst drinking a pint of bitter or mild.

As usual we've had the candidate selection process throw up a few curve balls including forcing cabinet minister Alun Cairns to resign as Welsh Secretary on the day the tories launch their campaign. Its become very clear from the list of Tory MPs who aren't standing that the party has officially split and 'one nation conservatism' is merely now a slogan Johnson throws around to pretend that the hard right of the party hasn't slung out or forced out all the moderates. On the Labour side we have the usual rows at factions in local parties fighting or being really upset at a London candidate being parachuted in.

Farage isn't standing but the Brexit Party apparently is, despite calls for an electoral pact with the Tories. Whether local parties get the memo from Leave.eu and CCHQ we will find out in time. The LDs, Greens and Plaid seem to be consolidating a Remain pact in some seats but this still splits the vote with Labour which will be a problem in some areas.

Johnson is apparently standing in Uxbridge. This does leave us with the possibility he could yet lose his seat. Swinson's seat is also far from a safe one. Corbyn will likely be safe but Islington did back the LDs as the 1st Party at the Euros with the assistance of some very pissed off Labour members.

Nothing is certain about the next 6 weeks apart from the fact it will throw up some shocks and leave us all shouting at the telly at some point.

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JustAnotherPoster00 · 07/11/2019 01:12

I personally want Pidcock to get it

ArseDarkly · 07/11/2019 01:26

I don't think Pidcock has enough experience and is also too close to Corbyn.

tobee · 07/11/2019 04:08

I think Yvette might stand down. Especially after her daughter's piece.

tobee · 07/11/2019 04:09

Incidentally, I wonder what the ratio of women to men candidates is this time? Are women being put off? Since they get more threats as far as I can tell.

Sostenueto · 07/11/2019 05:28

A very weary pmk after driving to and from Manchester lol!

thecatfromjapan · 07/11/2019 05:34

Not a chance of Yvette Cooper becoming Deputy.

Rebecca Long Bailey would be my guess.

BestIsWest · 07/11/2019 05:48

Pmk

bellinisurge · 07/11/2019 06:07

Watson will not be replaced by a centrist or anyone near the centre.

BestIsWest · 07/11/2019 06:43

Tom Watson’s going to become a gym instructor?

MaudBaileysGreenTurban · 07/11/2019 07:00

PMK.

Not Long-Bailey, please. I would like to see Cooper but think it's highly unlikely.

ContinuityError · 07/11/2019 07:08

Question: If Brexit is a microwave meal as Johnson says, is it ...

Reheated leftovers?

mathanxiety · 07/11/2019 07:10

Whatever it is, it's wrapped in tin foil.

FadingStar · 07/11/2019 07:22

Sylvia Hermon not standing in North Down...she was a unionist remainer and always put up a great performance in the HoC. Big blow...Sinn Fein and others were making way for her.

ContinuityError · 07/11/2019 07:22

So it’ll blow up in a big show of sparks? Oh and wreck the microwave at the same time.

mathanxiety · 07/11/2019 07:29

Yes, exactly - flames, blackened microwave, charred leftovers, smoke alarm...

(Many thanks to DD1 for the inspiration).

RedToothBrush · 07/11/2019 07:33

Matt Chorley @mattchorley
Ex-Labour Ian Austin says he won't run in Dudley. Tells @BBCr4today he will now "tell decent traditional patriotic Labour voters that they should vote for Boris Johnson in this election".

Austin on Corbyn: "This is a massive step. I regard myself as proper decent traditional Labour. I just think this man is unfit to run the country."

"I'm not a Tory, this isn't where I want to be... but I wouldn't say Boris Johnson is unfit to be our prime minister in the way that I say that about Jeremy Corbyn."

"If you are not going to do what's right on a fundamental issue like racism what are you going to do it on?"

What I take home from that is Islamophobia isn't proper racism and is absolutely fine in the eyes of Ian Austin.

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Motheroffourdragons · 07/11/2019 07:35

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RedToothBrush · 07/11/2019 07:36

David Henig @davidheniguk
So remember all the times the EU has been called a 'protectionist racket' by those most strongly advocating Brexit. A new study shows EU countries are in fact some of the most open to trade in the world - but the US is not...

Now I've only had a chance to have a quick glance at the methodology applied to the Trade Barrier Index but it seems relatively robust - covering tariffs, non-tariff barriers, facilitation through trade agreements and more.

Further bad news on the US front - they don't significantly open up their markets in any trade deal. So in swapping full access to the EU market for little greater access to the US market UK companies will overall be disadvantaged in trade terms

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bellinisurge · 07/11/2019 07:37

I see your point @RedToothBrush , but momentum think antisemitism isn't proper racism and you resolve conflict by only meeting with one side and pretending a dead woman's work was your work.
They are both unfit in different ways.

RedToothBrush · 07/11/2019 07:38

Unitetoremain @unitetoremain
BREAKING NEWS At a press conference in Westminster this morning we will formally announce our plans including seat lists. Please RT so that your followers can also see the plans as they are announced

Apparently 60 seats in total on the list. So far.

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Hoooo · 07/11/2019 07:54

The huge numbers of decent parliamentarians standing down after this misformed, venal parliament that wasn't is horrifying.
I'm amazed more people aren't teally worried about this.
They won't be rellaced by moderate centrists...the new parliament will be full of swivel eyed loons longing to take the UK back to the 1930s.
Ffs.

HeyNotInMyName · 07/11/2019 08:01

PMK

GeistohneGrenzen · 07/11/2019 08:02

PMK

JustAnotherPoster00 · 07/11/2019 08:03

but momentum think antisemitism isn't proper racism

Citation needed

GingerPCatt · 07/11/2019 08:04

I’m hiding under the duvet until it’s all over.

Westminstenders: Dissolved.