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Westminstenders: Showdown

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RedToothBrush · 13/10/2019 20:22

Big week ahead.

Johnson has until Tuesday Afternoon to get his shit together for the EU.

He thinks it can be down, but still lots to do in that time.

This week we have the Queen's Speech too, which is going to be misused as a party political broadcast.

Remember if the government can't pass the QS, there's a crisis that gets generated as a direct result. Sticking in proposals that any liberal or leftie will struggle with, is deliberately provoking a crisis of that nature. A proposal of that type would have to be anti democratic in nature, like... Ermmm... Voter ID. Hell, well what do you know.

Johnson is still after his election because as it stands he's a passenger stuck in the runaway train of his own creation.

Talk of a deal breakthrough is still overstated too. The DUP and many of the usual ERG suspects have poured water on the idea. And many on the opposition benches are pushing hard on a confirmary ref being needed for a deal - they don't have the numbers yet, but talk is that they are close. We also have loyalist military making threats about an Irish Sea Border solution.

Time for Project Shit Meets Fan.

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BigChocFrenzy · 14/10/2019 21:17

Savage jail sentences given to peaceful Catalan separatists

However badly we think Scotland is being treated, this is much worse:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/14/spain-imprisonment-catalan-leaders-supreme-cout-jailed-nine

TheMShip · 14/10/2019 21:19

@lljkk The Queen looked frail, tired, and fed up. Nice clothes, ridiculous situation.

BigChocFrenzy · 14/10/2019 21:21

flouncy 😂
Hopefully the Brexshitters and the DUP all get red cards and are suspended

flouncyfanny · 14/10/2019 21:21

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Daddybegood · 14/10/2019 21:22

How is it both sides behaving badly BCF?
The chants, Nazi salutes etc have all been from the Bulgarian ultras from what I've seen

flouncyfanny · 14/10/2019 21:23

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TheMShip · 14/10/2019 21:23

BCF That's shocking news from Spain. I read today a piece that talked about Nicola Sturgeon's insistence on doing things legally (and thus more slowly), and how that was based in large part on her observations of how badly things had gone in Catalonia with their unsanctioned referendum a few years back. I disapprove of much SNP policy as government (I live in Scotland and have been directly affected by the shambles of their PFI initiatives for schools and hospitals, not to mention education policy and the botched named person policy), but have to respect the way they've gone about attempting independence.

@prettybird and her DS might find this article www.commonspace.scot/articles/14793/robin-mcalpine-independence-movement-cant-ignore-scottish-governments-track-record interesting.

TheMShip · 14/10/2019 21:24

flouncy I'm relieved to hear it. The black swan event I fear most in this whole mess is the Queen dying.

BigChocFrenzy · 14/10/2019 21:25

Yep, that's the problem when you have a hereditary monarchy and the monarch isn't allowed to retire,
even though she's obviously knackered and very limited in what she can manage now

iirc a continental monarch recently retired / abdicated in their mid-sixties, to let their younger successor take over in their prime,
but apparently here it's Not The Done Thing

Bloody hell, even Charles is well past retirement age and won't have so much energy

BigChocFrenzy · 14/10/2019 21:29

daddy I'm in Germany and I only heard a brief report here, which sounded like both sides chanting
Maybe it was just habit after so many years of bad behaviour and the next report will have more detail

BigChocFrenzy · 14/10/2019 21:30

I mean the reporters got in the habit of assuming England fans misbehaving too

Outsomnia · 14/10/2019 21:30

Poor old Queenie, wheeled out for these occasions whether she wants to be part of it or not.

No wonder she looked a bit peeved and fed up. But she can go back to base and relax now for a little while. She sure does duty well doesn't she at 93?

I'd be on my chaise longue with a good book, a cashmere rug over me and shouting abuse at the morons in Parliament. She is a great actor, and I mean that in the best possible way, the last place she wanted to be was in Westminster today parroting the Tory Manifesto for an election that the Tories cannot call yet. You could not make it up.

Tiaras at dawn!

BigChocFrenzy · 14/10/2019 21:32

mship I fear Charles dying first and the shock carrying off HMQ soon after

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Ellie56 · 14/10/2019 21:34

Yes HM looked great but also looked thoroughly pissed off.

And how shocking that she felt she had to ask for the paperwork in advance so her lawyers could check it because her PM is such a lying untrustworthy scumbag. Shock

RedToothBrush · 14/10/2019 21:41

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/uk-turkey-arms-sales-syria-kurds-germany-france-netherlands-eu-embargo-a9155536.html
UK refuses to join France, Germany and Netherlands in halting arms sales to Turkey
EU leaders ‘condemn’ Turkey action against Kurds in strong terms

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UK refuses to join France, Germany and Netherlands in halting arms sales to Turkey
EU leaders ‘condemn’ Turkey action against Kurds in strong terms

The British government has refused to join its allies in halting arms sales to Turkey over the country’s military operation against Kurdish forces in Syria.

EU foreign ministers unanimously agreed on Monday to “condemn” Turkey’s military action, arguing that it “seriously undermines the stability and the security of the whole region” and was harming civilians.

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RedToothBrush · 14/10/2019 21:44

What's going on here?

Tom Wills @tomwills
Britain's Home Office neither confirms nor denies it has identified sites to use as internment camps in the event of a no-deal Brexit, saying it needs a "safe space to develop ideas".

12-page FOI refusal with my highlights below. Anyone with concrete info please get in touch.

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icannotremember · 14/10/2019 21:44

Yes sorry, my ds texted to say it was abandoned and I believed him and posted without checking... sorry Blush

RedToothBrush · 14/10/2019 21:45

And

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BigChocFrenzy · 14/10/2019 21:46

arms sales are more important than likely war crimes
and of course, BJ can't risk offending Trump by criticising something the Orange Monster gave the all-clear to do

flouncyfanny · 14/10/2019 21:46

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BigChocFrenzy · 14/10/2019 21:48

chi onwurahh@ChiOnwurah*

We have a Government which can neither confirm nor deny its intention to set up internment camps.

Thats not a sentence I thought I'd be writing about the UK.

Motheroffourdragons · 14/10/2019 21:51

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BigChocFrenzy · 14/10/2019 21:52

No other journalist has followed up that internment story as far as I can see - and it's a week old
I'd have expected it to be headline news, but I suppose there is too little information

However, refusing to confirm or deny internment should be a headline in itself
Did I miss that somewhere ?

OhYouBadBadKitten · 14/10/2019 21:53

I must remind myself not to read brexit threads before bed.