Westministenders: Conference Cult

[RedToothBrush]

Is it over yet?

The Tory Party Conference is in full swing in the Manchester Rain, and is proving to be its usual fun.

Johnson is caught up in all sorts of allegations of abuses of power - the non-declaration of his "friendship" to a busty blonde whom was getting a large tax payer grant, and then there the Odey question after his sister said he was under the control of the Hedge Funders.

And thats before we talk about the 40 hospitals, his provocative language and how many times he can say the word surrender.

There is lots of distancing from Lyton Crosby. And accusations that Johnson has gone 'rogue' only listening to the wisdom of Cummings and Symonds.

The Queen apparently has asked for advice as to under what circumstance she can dismiss a PM.

AND NO ONE IS EVEN TALKING ABOUT A DEAL.

I really really can’t bear to turn on radio or TV in case I hear the smug liar in full smug lying mode. Turns my stomach. Thank God for these threads, the only things that keep me up to date and sane.

Mad Lizzie Truss, one of the dimmer bulbs in the chandelier, sworn enemy of cheese importers, purveyor of quality pig semen to China, etc.

Still, Jeremy Corbyn, eh?

Next Bozza PMQ's (his second) - Oct 16
Benn Act deadline - Oct 19

Except BJ will probably be off glad-handing EU leaders in a desperate attempt to agree something on 16th and will sadly be unavailable for PMQs...

@derxa - I have always wondered what swung farmers in behind leave.... I have asked and never got an answer. What do you think it was? Were they subject to a micro targeted campaign? I remember the days of milk lakes and butter mountains then sequentially milk quotas. Then cattle passports and movement books for sheep. We hate red tape.
Anecdotally I've launched into discussions about Brexit at shows and sales with fellow farmers. I've yet to speak to a leaver.

There were a lot of leave signs around on farms round here (Oxfordshire) but put up by landowners without the actual tenant farmers being able to object.

Was just coming on to say I heard about the prorogation - shame, Brenda could have dodged a bullet further down the line there I suspect. If she is actually going to "use her powers for good"

Liz Truss has also nicely covered her arse if ever there comes a law breaking moment... I don't think she knows a chipolata about any plans, nor Javid for all he thinks he has been 'let in'. As I said IMO he is king fall guy once the chaos hits.

PMK to say still think revoke is on the cards

I wish I had your confidence. The only way BJ could get away with this would be if he commissioned the research needed to examine the options for leaving. But Johnson, commission research? It sounds like hard work, which is not something he is partial to.

Culham lab: one part of it is the Joint European Torus - the clue is in the name. DS used to work there (and still does sometimes.) Pulling out of Euratom came as a bolt from the blue to the Management. I suspect TM thought that she could pull out and then start opting in to the bits she wanted.

Farmers have also been "promised" they will get the same perks as they had under EU... I'm glad derxa hasn't fallen for that one. I think the pro-tory comments/anti-labour comments must have thrown me too Bercows.

It must indeed be very hard to see the party you loved taken over to fuel investors again. I know my dad is in a similar boat as a life-long Conservative, however having studied PPE he is clear he now simply can't vote for them again. He is scared of Corbyn, but far more scared of No Deal.

Clearly the hedge-funder/corporate lobbyists aren't investers per-se but I'm sure that will be the spin.

@derxa

Strength to you. 🌸🌸🌸

My local butcher farms - and sells his own excellent beef and lamb through a shop in town. ( not a farm shop, an ordinary butchers)

He's a rabid Brexiteer who claims he'd rather go out of business than stay in the EU. It's quite mind boggling.

At one time in my career I spent a lot of time talking to hill farmers and I am very aware how narrow the profit margins are and yet how incredibly attached they are to the land, and their animals. It's their heritage . And how EU subsidies are the crucial element - other than a partner's wage- in keeping their businesses afloat.

They were genuinely the very first group I thought of when the referendum results came in.

Which is why my butcher's view mystifies me, and I know he's not alone.

PMQs always used to be Tuesdays and Thursdays, and Thatcher never missed them unless it was unavoidable. Then Blair decided he couldn't be arsed and said he'd take them once, on Wednesdays, but longer so he answered as many questions.

Are there such beasts anymore ? I thought they were extinct ? Certainly the Tory party thinks they are, which is all that matters.

In the Ashcroft poll on ‘tribes’ Tory remainers were more Tory than remain, Labour remainers more Remainer than Labour.

If this is true that’s why Labour Party have haemorrhaged voters to Lib Dem’s and Tory’s have still managed to keep the remainers in their core support even though they are embracing no deal as viable option on which to leave.

Grinchly doesn't Leave with No Deal mystify us all? Apart from the hedgefunders. I now understand how to short a currency (if only I had the wherewithal to borrow a lot of Sterling) but I don't know it works with the FTSE.

Aaron Bastani
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Finally some honesty from the
@LibDems

• it’s no deal over a Corbyn led interim government ‘every time’ according to MP @Jamie4North

twitter.com/i/status/1179442235336773632

Fair point ballyhoo

What's this about another prorogation for a queens speech? What for? So they can bring the WA back as it will be a new session? I'm feeling lost today. Totally confused as to wtf.

My PIL are farmers AND Leavers. The type who said they are happy with a few years of hardship (because we know hardship and will cope - unlike the millennia snowflakes). They also had massive issues with the paperwork, several ear tags and the EU imposing yet more rules.

I don’t think I’ve ever heard them being thankful for the subsidies, even though they would never have made it to retirement wo them.

the lib dems are a waste of space.

The only consistency over the last 3 years has been centrist remainers backing the wrong horses.

Ghost in your opinion what were the ‘right horses’?

I dunno.

- it’s no deal over a Corbyn led interim government ‘every time’ according to MP

How to lose the new members they have gained over the last three years, and doesn't sit with a pledge to revoke.