Please tell me specifically how Brexit will affect you

[ConorMcGregorsChin]

Exactly that.

To the average Joe on the street, they may not have thought it may affect their job.
Even for those who trade daily with the EU
Remainers seem to be constantly poo pooed.
Its been said on these threads before that Leavers would rather leave with No Deal and still brazenly say that this is what they wanted all along, rather than admit that belonging to the EU never really crossed their mind on a daily basis. Or that they were lied to.

The UK has been divided since the Referendum in 2016. Personally, I've been gutted. I had a fellow parent the day after tell me he was 'Buzzing' at the result. I'm sorry to say I think his reasons were misguided.

My own personal experience may be biased, but I give talks to schools. And I have nothing to gain from this.
Most people agree that bees need to be saved. The EU have played a crucial role in banning neoincotinoid pesticides from being used. The UK will overturn this rule and let farmers use whatever they like. This is a massive deal. This will kill bees. And it will happen overnight. Not to mention other things like the Domestic abusive bill being abandoned.

I'm keen to know why anyone would post union Jack flags and just claim that they want their country back. Aside from racial elements. I really want to know what people seriously think we can gain from this total shit storm.

Mama they will now where the supply chain originates from; these will be the medicines at high risk initially. Other medications may contain active ingriedients and/or excipients imported from EU even if manufactured in UK.

Looking at that article the problem is being made worse by people panicking and stockpiling medication, I'm sure these threads don't help, they just add to the panic

I suspect in terms of volume the NHS has stockpiled the most on government advice; is the shortage their fault then?

Bingo.

to all of you posters with health conditions, or with loved ones who do.

Rees-Mogg has literally pursued personal financial profit over people's lives. The people he's supposed to serve to boot.

Johnson...well I think the train of his own ambition has well and truly run away with him.

Fair play to Theresa May. She had a good go at trying to resolve this shit storm.

This thread has really helped me to understand the human stories behind the headlines. And I'm appalled.

More for you all.

How do I expect it to affect me personally? Just the mundane DP likely to lose his job scenario here.

If I had a health condition where I was reliant on specific medications I’d be panicking. Many drugs can’t be stockpiled due to their short shelf life.

I'm a pregnant insulin dependent diabetic. Without insulin both of us will die. I'm terrified.

Do you think @thetwinkles is one of those Brexit fairies that will die if we don't all BeLeeeeeeeeeeeeeave enough?

@thetwinkles

Drug supplies will be fine - those with serious need, cancer, diabetes etc will take priority.

With all due respect, and this may well get deleted, but who the fuck do you think you are to respond to people who DO have serious illnesses, to people who have children who DO have serious illnesses with such a ridiculous statement.

IT IS ALREADY HAPPENING THIS ISNT A PREDICTION IT IS CURRENT REALITY NOW

Why the hell would we make it up?! Do you think it's a game and a laugh worrying about dying?

Come stand next to me when I'm having a seizure and tell me that it will all be fine. When I don't wake up and have to be resuscitated. When I wake up finally in hospital confused and terrified. You wouldn't be so blaze about this if anyone you loved was in my position or that of other posters suffering due to the shortage of meds.

Ridiculous. Disrespectful. Nasty. Thoughtless.

The sad thing isn't even that those of us already suffering know that your flippant "it'll be fine" is total bullshit, it's more that other people may listen to you and believe what you say - which has absolutely nil research / experience / supply chain knowledge to back it up.

On a nicer note, @Anothernotherone you actually do sound lovely and have tried to understand and I appreciate it.

My partner is Portuguese national. We have to apply for settled status even though he has been here since he was 10. Had to travel multiple times to the embassy in London and order documents from Portugal. Costed £300+ so far and we are beyond skint we still have to pay more

Fuck @Brexitstash I'm so sorry I can't imagine being more stressed than I am already but your situation is a million times worse you poor thing. Sending you positive thoughts.

I am on life saving medication but haven't had any problem getting mine.

Lucky you.

Not the same for many other people.

Could you not have posted that with any ounce of sympathy for people who aren't as lucky?

Do you think we are making it up?

I can't believe the responses of a few people to countless posts from people who are terrified of dying because of very real shortages.

DH's company is closing its UK offices at the end of this month due to Brexit

He is one of only 4 people who will still have a job, he will have to work from home (which really doesn't suit him at all) and travel abroad frequently, and take a pay cut

I am on 4 of the medications which are listed as vulnerable to shortages. I have no idea how bad it is going to be, but potentially it is life-threatening and definitely health-endangering.

Yep goady, veiled goady but all the same.

Whereas telling people with serious illnesses they'll be fine (when there is a mountain of evidence saying otherwise) isn't goady? Away and check your head.

If only there was a MNexit and we could vote to separate ourselves from people who so callously and thoughtlessly try to silence and dismiss people who are seriously ill and whose children are seriously ill.

If your response to the experiences such people are sharing is to dismiss them then you're just plain nasty.

No medications currently, but I have a fabulous French dil and she hasn’t been able to get settled status yet. She’s very employable and I’m worried she ds and dgc will all fly off. I know that is selfish, but there are lots of families like ours.
Half Irish and the Good Friday Agreement has been a very wonderful thing, I am beyond scared that this nonsense will jeopardise the peace.
So sorry for those of you struggling to get your medication. Very scared for the NHS, so many eu nationals holding it up for us.
I am not naturally a pessimist . Hope it will all be fine.

Looking at that article the problem is being made worse by people panicking and stockpiling medication

Oh look, someone else pontificating about medicines supply chains without any understanding.

Hardly anyone is able to stockpile - only those who take medicines as and when required, and only those who take stable meds.

Truthfully I don't know that we will be massively affected directly. My parents and my in laws are on medication that apparently won't be affected, mine and DH's jobs are probably safe and whilst we will make cut backs day to day on spending, we will probably be fine. BUT I am massively affected by the divide this has caused, I'm genuinely scared for our political future, I'm scared for people who aren't lucky enough to have a buffer and face unemployment and homelessness as a result of a misguided and misleading leave campaign. I'm scared if we don't leave the Brexiteers will riot and create civil unrest. My heart breaks for everyone here who is scared of what will happen to them and their loved ones, because no one should be collateral damage in this desperate political power play that the stories are playing with our future.

Not many people understand my love of Jeremy Corbyn and Labour but I can best sum it up in - I trust him more to get through Brexit without the vulnerable suffering more than I trust the Tories. And I am
Astounded at how many people think our current government has their best interests at heart.

3dogs2cats I don't think that is selfish of you at all. I hope your DIL manages to get her settled status sorted. It's beyond ridiculous that we are treating people like this

For those who think the govt won't let people go without vital life saving medication- think again!! Last winter thousands of children were without vital epipens because the govt failed to plan for a foreseeable shortage. My son only just survived the shortage -his pharmacist finally managed to get me one in date EpiPen just a day before he had a big, rapid, anaphylactic reaction. A day later and he wouldn't be here any more.

There is no room for complacency.

Thatcurlygirl - The shortage of drugs at the moment is because of a problem with the global market. Also over the years our community pharmacists have worked hard with manufacturers to have low tariff costs on drugs in the UK Market, so when there is a worldwide shortage manufacturers are not so keen to sell to the UK because they will get a higher price elsewhere, so nothing to do with Brexit.

The pharmacy that published that list has been slammed as being an irresponsible thing to do because it has caused some people to panic adding to the problem

Also my brother's employer has already left the country, so my brother now lives in Dublin rather than down the road.

And vital public services are being cut, while the govt spunks money up the wall on its "get ready for Brexit" campaign

Thank you to everyone again for sharing your stories. And to you all.

I'm still slightly gobsmacked at the 2 posters who came on to say it was goady. And proceeded to goad others. Pretty depressing really.
As far as the 'Let the man do his job' comment is concerned, I am utterly bewildered. This post is not entitled 'i want to stop the prime minister from going to work'
Seriously. FML.

Really hope the coming days and weeks will provide some form of stability. Although sadly for some, (and probably the NHS) it's going to be too little too late.

Looking at that article the problem is being made worse by people panicking and stockpiling medication

This makes no sense. My antidepressants are on that list, my surgery will not issue a script before it is due. We dropped it into the surgery today and I have just started on my last box. So this week and next. I can't stockpile them as I need to take them.

@Mamamia456

Thatcurlygirl - The shortage of drugs at the moment is because of a problem with the global market. Also over the years our community pharmacists have worked hard with manufacturers to have low tariff costs on drugs in the UK Market, so when there is a worldwide shortage manufacturers are not so keen to sell to the UK because they will get a higher price elsewhere, so nothing to do with Brexit. The pharmacy that published that list has been slammed as being an irresponsible thing to do because it has caused some people to panic adding to the problem

I think my neurologist is probably more clued up on this than you. The shortage and restriction of length in repeat prescriptions (from 3 months at a time to a month by month basis) is directly because of Brexit in the case of my epilepsy medication.

I find it baffling that on a thread like this where people are sharing genuine fears that even if you don't agree with people, you are unable to include even an ounce of sympathy or empathy for their fears in your posts.

I think those of us who have sat with medical professionals in appointments and been told there will be shortages are probably a bit more informed on this than those who haven't.

Are our doctors making it up? Are we? Are charities? No, I have no idea what agenda you have for saying that something isn't true when it absolutely is.

I don't give a toss if you're leave / remain / whatever, but it's wildly inappropriate to tell people with real illnesses that they are worrying about nothing when their medical teams have told them there is something to worry about.

And again, you've posted nothing with an ounce of sympathy or understanding - just dismissive.

To the other people who are scared shitless about medication I'm sorry, it's a horrible position for us to be in

There is some misinformation on this thread;

Regarding insulin supplies - we know that Lilly, Novo Nordisk and Sanofi are keeping at least 16 weeks of additional stock in the UK - not 6 weeks.

The Epilepsy Society has some reassuring information about contingency plans on their website - they meet regularly with the DHSC and the medicines supply team;

www.epilepsysociety.org.uk/news/DHSC-says-robust-plans-place-prevent-disruption-medicines-supplies-documented-Operation-Yellowhammer-12-09-2019#.XX_WKtFK2Uk

Brexit contingency plans for epilepsy medications from individual pharmaceutical companies here;

www.epilepsysociety.org.uk/contingency-plans-epilepsy-medications-case-no-deal-brexit#.XX_W6NFK2Uk

We also heard last week that two thirds of Ireland's medicines come via the UK - Leo Varadkar has assured Irish citizens that it's not going to be a problem.