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Westministenders: Is Boris going to give us one ?

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BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 09:50

A General Election that is

Well, only when Corbyn lets him, not when BJ wants it.
So far as PM, BJ has lost 4 votes to zero wins - which is a record

BJ has been spraying around promises of billions in spending,
like a tomcat drunk on catnip, spraying the Magic Money Tree

SPADs have been forbidden to take holiday before 31 October
and of course that coup / prorogue to force No Deal and wank off the authoritarian vote

The prorogue also robs him of 5 more weeks time in which he could have forced a GE.
Whoops

BJ / Cum would ideally want a GE right after Brexit
to have achieved their No Deal, maximise their votes from the Faragist
.... all before the No Deal chickens come home to roost

Of course, as PM, BJ - or is Cummings the real PM ? - could change any pre-Brexit date that the naive think they have agreed

The Rebel Alliance have options to stop him:

BJ has sacked 21 MPs, so if the Alliance unite, they outnumber Con+DUP
Another Whoops
However, they have different aims and find it difficult to compromise
Some might prefer No Deal rather than the bogeyman Corbyn, because they don't do compromise

They could use a VoNC to replace BJ by Corbyn,
who would then ask for an extension and call a GE before Brexit
Stopping No Deal that way depends on Corbyn winning the GE - a HUGE gamble

Maybe he can use the slogan
"Brexit is the Tory project to make you forget the other Tory project: Austerity"

while to appeal to some pp, the Tories can use
"Vote to protect the bonuses of rich bankers"

Or if nothing happens by 19 October, MPs can vote for the WA, which would definitely stop No Deal
But that would require the HoC to make a decision - and it has spent several months avoiding that

Tick tock, No Deal is coming

Meanwhile, talks are ongoing for a Tory-Brexit party pact.
Reportedly, the hedge-fund donors won't fund a Tory GE campaign unless there is a pact:

www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/revealed-election-pact-between-johnson-and-farage-edges-closer/

How much money does it take to buy the UK governing party ? 🤔

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BigChocFrenzy · 08/09/2019 14:27

J-C Piris has said that this would NOT seriously iterfere with EU business
AND would also not automatically results in the UK's expulsion

The UK would be taken to the ECJ, who would impose other sanctions on the UK - e.g. SM restrictions, agencies, fines -
but probably NOT reward BJ with the expulsion he wants

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Apileofballyhoo · 08/09/2019 14:29

Cross posted with you there DGR. I think I'm not tough enough for any of this. I feel like crying or vomiting. I think I watch and watch and read and read for hopeful news, but even minor victories seem pointless against the great march towards hard right authoritarianism.

Also BCF I never thanked you for the thread.

BigChocFrenzy · 08/09/2019 14:29

ballyhoo "Dead in a ditch" reinforces his base and plays to the far right extremists too

It also primes them for whatever he needs them to do later
whether that be providing an excuse for invoking the CCA, or being GE foot soldiers to bring out the vote

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Hazardtired · 08/09/2019 14:31

As this thread is coming to an end does any one have an opinion for me?

Should i bother contacting MP 're dp's med shortage? I contacted him last year in july pretty much predicting this scenario and he had no fucks. The details over the shortage are few due to NDAs. I have written info from doctor and Lloyds.

As there's a GE election coming up he's actually been busy doing his job. It's such a shame he does his job really well in the run up to a GE but is a complete useless cunt the rest of the time. He's focused on some local issues and actually turned up to stuff so pleased leavers and then he spoke at one of the local protests against suspension and pro remain.

Should I be arsed?

BigChocFrenzy · 08/09/2019 14:32

Yep, DG The graves in Germany contain many who thought they could use Hitler to combat socialism
and also socialists who thought he was on their side

He wiped them all out, as soon as they were no longer useful

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BigChocFrenzy · 08/09/2019 14:34

Hazard I'd write a letter, nothing to lose

  • and if you feel able, say you'll be going to the media if this is not resolved v quickly

That might make him get off his arse, with a GE coming, because he'll expect you'll mention him in that

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DGRossetti · 08/09/2019 14:34

"Dead in a ditch"

a) - attempt to take control of Google by subverting the word "ditch" in "ditch the backstop" ?

b) - a clear and unambiguous IRA-stylee warning to some opponents (who know who they are) of how they will be found if they don't get with the programme ?

Random18 · 08/09/2019 14:35

@prettybird I think your friend is just an idiot. Him being a Rangers fan has nothing to do with it............

DGRossetti · 08/09/2019 14:36

After operation Yellowhammer, operation Hummingbird ?

BigChocFrenzy · 08/09/2019 14:37

White supremacist sparked major alert after sending fake poison to Queen, court hears

Far right white supremacist terrorists are not major news; only Muslim ones

Imagine the headlines if a Muslim sent such packages to the Queen

https://news.sky.com/story/white-supremacist-sparked-major-alert-after-sending-fake-poison-to-queen-court-hears-11800695

David Parnham, who called himself "Muslim Slayer", is being sentenced for 15 offences relating to hundreds of letters he wrote.
...
The 36-year-old from Lincoln has admitted encouraging murder, making hoaxes involving noxious substances and bombs, sending letters with intent to cause distress, and encouraging offences.

The court heard he posted similar messages to the one sent to the Queen to former prime minister Theresa May, the Home Office and two bishops, which contained white powder in October 2016.

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Apileofballyhoo · 08/09/2019 14:37

I think "dead in a ditch" is the first part of "stand up and fight with me".

Alsohuman · 08/09/2019 14:39

I rather hoped “dead in a ditch” was a promise.

Basilpots · 08/09/2019 14:41

The UK would be taken to the ECJ, who would impose other sanctions on the UK - e.g. SM restrictions, agencies, fines -
but probably NOT reward BJ with the expulsion he wants

Just the naughty step then.

Which once again plays to the ‘look, look nasty EU being mean to us again’.

Anything other than admit the Tory Party caused all this.

Then went on to make it worse...,

Basilpots · 08/09/2019 14:43

Apile & Hazard Flowers

Hazardtired · 08/09/2019 14:44

Ta bigchoc

I think what's happened is during the stockpiling meds they've gone dp's med is classed as X, which is true, and catergory X has loads of drugs, which is also true, BUT dp's med is X but also does Y and Z which none of the other X's do. Its rarely prescribed because lots of people dont need a X,Y,Z they just need X so someone has thought oh this is not popular and easily substituted we dont want to waste space on that

It's not a very sexy story is it? Grin

(If that's whats even happened!)

DGRossetti · 08/09/2019 14:45

I think "dead in a ditch" is the first part of "stand up and fight with me".

Or a threat - and not even a subtly cloaked one.

Hazardtired · 08/09/2019 14:46

apile dont think anyone is tough enough for this and you are normal. Brew

flouncyfanny · 08/09/2019 14:49

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Sostenueto · 08/09/2019 14:50

If you have a property worth 300k and the rent is only £600 when can my dd move in cos she's paying £500 for a house worth no more than 90k and is falling down around her ears so she might as well pay £600 for a 300k house which would be equivalent to living in a palace for herGrin

DGRossetti · 08/09/2019 14:55

Could Johnson refuse to comply with opposition demands by merely presenting a deal to the EU which they can not accept

But there's no approved deal. He may as well show them his laundry list for all the good it would do and all they would care.

Sostenueto · 08/09/2019 15:00

kicked the ball thanks only now seen your post among the hundreds already gone by!Flowers

Sostenueto · 08/09/2019 15:02

No way the EU will chuck us out because there's no way they want the blame for a no deal brexit.

Sostenueto · 08/09/2019 15:03

Because the EU will be thinking about all their citizens in this country and the backlash they may suffer.

ListeningQuietly · 08/09/2019 15:09

Hazard
DEFINITELY write to your MP.
They are paid to deal with elector correspondence.
They have teams of staff to deal with it.
Make them do their real job

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