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Can remainers tell me why you wouldn't vote for Corbyn in a GE?

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CaptainWarbeck · 06/09/2019 06:31

Discussing Brexit with centre right friend who is adament despite voting Labour in previous elections she would never vote for Corbyn. When pressed she mentions links to trade unions but can't tell me why that's a bad thing.

I don't love Corbyn but I would vote for him over the absolute mess that is the Tories at the moment. Why for remain/Labour voters right now is he so politically toxic?

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EdtheBear · 06/09/2019 09:56

Can labour roll Tony Blair back out?

JC is too far left - twat
BJ is a gambler - he might just pull it off - the EU are ready to dip their Disaster funds in event of No Deal!

Bloomburger · 06/09/2019 10:27

Watch that odious Emily Thornbury on last nights question time. Says it all really. Labour (when they get elected, although they don't want an election) will go to EU try to negotiate their idea of a good deal and apparently what the public want then they'll come back and campaign against the deal they've just secured??????????

Lib Dem's will even if there is another vote and it's still for leaving still campaign to scrap it all and stay 🙄

endofthelinefinally · 06/09/2019 10:27

I know a few young people who are heavily involved in Momentum. All studying politics at university and all want to go straight into politics. Champagne socialists, they have never had a job.
I like Kier Starmer. But I think the labour party is a lost cause.
My local MP is conservative and is a really good MP.
I am torn, because I am a remainer. I am extremely worried about the current war on women and the support across all parties for self id.
Imagine employers having carte blanche to employ 100% biological males. No more need for maternity leave/ benefits. No women only spaces. Labour is already well down this road.
JC is too thick to grasp his own shortcomings.

BertrandRussell · 06/09/2019 10:49

“it's those of us in the middle who resent being further squeezed.”

How will you be squeezed?

rookiemere · 06/09/2019 11:04

BertrandRussel inheritance tax for one thing, perhaps the current regime is too generous but selfishly I don't want to lose everything I may stand to inherit NB if it's all spent on care homes that's totally different .

Ok fair enough when I read it - and thank you for putting me in a position where I needed to do that - there's nothing else jumping out immediately as impacting me and I actually agree with the increase of tax rate to 50% for very high earners, but there does seem to be a lot of additional spending that will need to be funded somehow.

BertrandRussell · 06/09/2019 11:07

“selfishly I don't want to lose everything I may stand to inherit”

Who says you’re going to lose everything?

Rainbowhairdontcare · 06/09/2019 11:11

I'm Jewish.

rookiemere · 06/09/2019 11:12

Ok I'd not lose everything, I agree. Ha ha maybe I'd just not read it carefully enough before, thanks for that BertrandRussel you've shifted my perspective somewhat and I feel a bit of an idiot for not having read properly about it.

It's a bit of a moot point anyway as I'm in Scotland and my vote will be firmly going to whoever is most likely to block SNP which may hopefully this time round be Lib Dem.

BertrandRussell · 06/09/2019 11:17

@rookiemere - blimey- I don’t think that’s ever happened before Grin Go me!
Now Scotland - that’s a whole other kettle of fish!

Manontry · 06/09/2019 11:26

🤣🤣

Herocomplex · 06/09/2019 11:36

BertrandRussell rookiemere aww, wow! Smile

Lyingonthesofainthedark · 06/09/2019 11:40

Here we go again.

'Why would you vote for Boris'
'Why wouldn't you vote for Corbyn'.

Every bloody day.

I don't trust any of these threads. Even the titles are dodgy.

jasjas1973 · 06/09/2019 11:41

I would also say that Labour are actively targeting the middle class rather than the rich. The rich are well off enough to find loop holes and weather the storm, it's those of us in the middle who resent being further squeezed

Apart from Labour want to increase tax on those earning 150k plus (from 45% to 50%), meanwhile Javid has announced an extra 1.4 billion for adult social care.... paid for by 2% extra on council tax (on top of the 5% annual increases) who took child benefit away from any higher rate tax payer?

Tell me again who is targeting the middle classes?

jasjas1973 · 06/09/2019 11:46

Tory spending plans are being funded by higher borrowing, we already owe 2 trillion, with interest payments of £48 billion per year!!

Boris wants to cost us another £18 billion by cutting taxes for himself and his other wealthy mates....and thats year on year too.

But Corbyn is a threat to the nation..... Hmm

twofingerstoEverything · 06/09/2019 11:48

OP Discussing Brexit with centre right friend who is adament despite voting Labour in previous elections she would never vote for Corbyn.

Why would someone who maintains they're 'centre right' vote Labour ever?

To answer the OP's question, Corbyn isn't a remainer, so is unlikely to be the first choice for remain supporters.

Lumene · 06/09/2019 11:48

Corbyn is for Brexit.

BertrandRussell · 06/09/2019 11:52

“Corbyn is for Brexit”

And the last 3 Conservative leaders have been Remainers.....

steppemum · 06/09/2019 11:53

He's a fucking useless twat

first answer sums it up really.
Can't bear anything about him, and putting him in charge is worse than BJ (which is saying a lot)

I would LOVE to be able to vote labour in the next election. Love to. I have voted different parties at different times, not stuck to one party, but right now, we need a labour opposition, and we just have a bunch of losers.

I honestly don't knwo the answer, or who to vote for.
I could cry and the mess the country is in.

Dapplegrey · 06/09/2019 12:37

The rich are well off enough to find loop holes and weather the storm,

If there’s any chance of Corbyn getting in trillions and trillions of pounds will leave the country.

Manontry · 06/09/2019 13:47

What loop holes?

BertrandRussell · 06/09/2019 13:53

Well, Rees Mogg’s businesses are registered in the Cayman Islands....

SconeofDestiny · 06/09/2019 14:15

I'm living in Ireland but still have the right to vote in a GE at the moment although the constituency where my vote is counted is regarded as a safe Tory seat, which is frustrating.
I will happily vote Labour and Corbyn if I think it will get the Tories out.
I prefer more Centre Left policies, but I think Corbyn isn't as far left leaning as the Right Wing press portray him to be. Just watch him and Boris debating in Parliament and then judge who the incompetent buffoon is.

All this talk of anti-semitism is just a vile slur to deflect attention away from the shit (austerity) policies the Tory's have brought upon the country.
In fact, I applaud anyone who quite reasonably questions why Israel instantly resorts to violence rather than calm negotiation with their neighbours in Palestine. Plenty of Jewish friends don't support the Corbyn anti-semetic rhetoric either.

RiskIt4Biscuit · 06/09/2019 14:41

Corbyn is just awful.

The antisemitism, his extreme policies, wanting to renationalise, the nepotism, his personality and the way he conducts himself. His followers/momentum are also making it hard for me to want to support him.

Manontry · 06/09/2019 14:43

Well, Rees Mogg’s businesses are registered in the Cayman Islands....

do you mean the super rich?

Most rich people - ie those earning 150k a year and over - depends on how you define rich - don't have businesses registered in the Cayman Islands.

Shock horror, some rich people dutifully pay all their taxes and don't use any of these 'loop holes' .

On mumsnet saying oh rich people will be fine they all use loop holes is just a way of completely dismissing the issue, and it is an issue, even if you couldn't give a flying fuck about anyone who earns over 200k a year or whatever.

wowfudge · 06/09/2019 14:48

I think Labour are unelectable with him as leader and they need to wake up to that fact. He's a Leaver, he too left wing and a useless leader.

The constituency I live in voted out the awful Tory Brexiteer at the last GE due, I believe, to tactical voting as it had been Tory for decades. The Labour MP is far more visible working for her constituents. Even so I'd find it hard to vote Labour in a GE with the current leadership.

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