Do any of the people who laughed and rolled their eyes at those of us stockpiling six months ago care to comment?

[StealthPolarBear]

I seem to remember some rather scathing comments. I wonder how many are quietly buying a few extra bits each week and smugly congratulating themselves on being prepared. Forgetting the scorn and contempt.

I am interested what was the monthly allowance of food in Rhodesia you've experienced @Silenceissilver. I am asking because I lived with food book/stamps in Poland in the 80's and can tell you exactly how much an adult had and a child as well.
Rationing was introduced in Poland slowly, starting with sugar (2 lb pm/person, I learned not to put sugar in my tea so we could make cakes because we had 100g of chocolate pm for under 18's allowance) for a a year or so.
By the time meat, cured meat, oil, flour, rice/bulghur, sweets, chocolate, vodka, cigarettes, fuel and also funeral related clothes (black) ,shoes and more (that was more localised) were rationed shops were empty, inflation went up to 40-80% etc. Eggs were never on ration, you just couldn't buy any in shops, only directly from small farmers.

Of course we lived through it but many were undernourished.
Also there was different infrastructure in place (many small farms selling directly to public) and everyone (obviously mostly women!) cooked everything from scratch.

I do not want to live with that because some toffs want to prove something to their mates. It was grim and definitely very, very tough on women.

I’m preparing. There may not be shortages, I think there will, at least initially. However, there will certainly be price rises so it makes sense to buy now if you are able. Very concerned for the JAMs who aren’t.

Considering how many posters still don’t understand the difference between stockpiling and panic buying, I’m not surprised that they think there’s nothing to worry about.

Yes he does have to beg for his prescription.

They have cut down what he is prescribed so instead if getting a big bag with enough for a month or so, he gets enough for a couple weeks and if he is away with work they get very shirty if he asks for more

The way DP sees it is this has been going on for so long amd he is a relatively competent person. There are probably others who are having their health compromised by this current system.

As no deals are going to be put on place before we leave then he just wants to leave.

He can't understand why people just want to delay the inevitable other than drive the country to the brink

I agree @S1naidSucks . I hope it isn't putting people off from being sensible.
Obviously stockpiling in this contest does not mean walling yourself into the house with tins of beans. It means getting a buffer in as you can afford and space permits.

Context not contest.

A question I keep asking is

If they are not stockpiling insulin why are they rationing it

Oliversmumsarmy I’m sorry your DH is ill.

I’m perplexed, though, as to why he thinks Brexit/no deal will help?

If there are supply issues already, under a trade agreement, why would this situation improve without a trade agreement? Does he understand that goods don’t just get waved through customs without one?

I can understand his frustration and worry. What I don’t get is why he thinks no deal will solve the problem. I can’t see any mechanism by which it would do so.

If there is already an international shortage, I can see why customs chaos and dropping out of the EU without a deal could cause the UK to become a lower priority for getting its orders fulfilled

That's certainly my thought. I could be wrong. I've been on this medication for six years and it's been bad for the last year and getting worse. I can buy it from abroad, costs me about £60 a month inc shipping. So I don't always bother. It's just not available in the UK for some reason.

I’m so sorry you’re both going through this, Oliversmumsarmy. Has your doctor or the pharmacist explained why they’re doing this? I just wonder if they’re (and I really don’t want to upset you with this) but I wonder if it’s in case if there being a lot of medicine left when the inevitable happens? The reason I wonder about that, is because there was a full Tesco bag of my husband’s medication left when I lost him. I had to give that to the pharmacy to be destroyed, which was an horrendous waste of money and medication. Though I understand why they do it.

My Mum had problems getting her epilepsy medication last week. Apparently the usual supplier was out of stock and chemist had to phone around, luckily they got it in yesterday. She's had medication for 62 years and this is the first it's happened. Could be a coincidence, but makes you think.

Ex has had trouble getting his prescription written. I am constantly at the GP trying to get dd a repeat prescription as they have less than a month's worth on each script.

Lmao, no Mrs Doyle I'm not with you.
FFS lol, lack of self awareness is staggering with some posters.

To those staunch remainers who only see disadvantages to leaving with no deal, I would say you're painting a rather bleak picture which does nothing but create more negativity, which is the last thing we need right now.
I am no fan of Bojo but can see some sense in the stance he's taking, which basically involves playing hard ball in an effort to get the EU to give us a better deal. If they don't, then there are two stark choices. Remain, or leave with no deal. Both those options have upsides and downsides. If we remain, I think there could be many angry people and civil unrest. If we leave without a deal, the same applies, but I think ultimately we will be glad we left the EU, because that project is failing.

Necessity is the mother of invention. A no deal Brexit would force us to be more self sufficient, which I see as a major plus. Currently we are not self sufficient in food production, or energy production, but we can improve that, if the political will is there. Short term difficulties for long term gain.
Stockpile or don't, it's up to you, but there's no need to be angry just because others don't see things your way.

I see no benefits to leaving so the more rebellion from MP’s gives me some hope that it will be revoked.

Are you ready for "short term difficulties ". Not sure people are. And so there has been regular advice on here to build in some resilience as YOUR budget and storage space allows.
Which some people are calling stockpiling as if we've all donned tinfoil hats. It suits the No Dealers' agenda to pretend they aren't the bad guys.

I am very confused.
Gove at the weekend said people will have the food they ‘need’ then when pressed said there would be no shortages.
He’s not daft - he knows he will be held to that.
But British Retail Consortium says there will be shortages of fresh foods.
If there is no risk of shortage shouldn’t the government say so, clearly, on its no deal information pages? But it doesn’t (not that I can find anyway)

It doesn't for a reason.

Scottish govt website says no shortages overall but shortages of fresh food expected which should ease towards next summer as uk produce comes into season.
That’s clear and helpful and reinforces my current approach. Thank you Nicola.

A remainer on here has said that the Government has told us to stockpile food and medicine. Has anyone found a link to this?

Not me @Mamamia456 . I haven't seen that

Bellingsurge - Thank you, I haven't seen it either.

TheBigBallOfOil

Several commentators have suggested that the very careful terminology, “food they need” (and he has previously said “calories they need” too) suggests rationing.

I’ve heard radio reports that one or two councils have publicly stated that’s what they are planning for too.

No idea if they’re correct. Would hope not but I’m preparing, can’t hurt.

Saw this about school dinners

amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/03/secret-education-report-no-deal-brexit-school-chaos

A couple of the schools in our county are putting plans in place for outlying staff to stay at School Monday-Friday in the event of fuel shortages. Must admit, that possibility wasn’t on my radar but heads are generally (reasonably ) sensible people and would be acting on (reasonably ) credible information from somewhere.

This is one of the problems when our Government deliberately keeps us - officials too - completely in the dark. Worst case scenarios must be imagined and planned for, usually wasting a great deal of time and money.

The Deputy Chief Constable of Lancashire said on the radio just yesterday that he was currently spending 3 days each week on contingency planning for no deal, to counter possible civil disobedience in the event of food and medicine shortages. Just what an already hard pressed police force needs.

Complete madness, all of it.