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Westminstenders: Game On?

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RedToothBrush · 29/08/2019 21:35

Johnson has had prorogation approved by the Queen.

There has been widespread outrage and horror both in the UK and in Europe. Johnson has ripped up the principle of Liberal democracy even if constitutionally what he has done is legal. In shredding convention and the 'gentlemans agreement' of understanding we teeter on the edge of democratic collapse.

Talk is tha Dominic Cummings is persuing a game theory principle of deliberately putting us on collision course with the EU. The idea being that they will blink first because the alternative of what will happen is just too awful for them to allow. The idea is to force others to make the moves whilst Johnson appears principled and strong, even without a proper strategy and plan for a deal.

And there is the rub. Despite all the Talk of no deal, at some point a deal MUST be made, regardless of whether its before or after 31st October. There is no sense of what that could be and how it could be done. And then there's the prospect of a US deal which suffers from the same lack of tangibility.

All there is, is how things look for a General Election. Nothing else.

Johnson is pitching for an election with no sense of what's needed for Brexit - including the legislation needed for no deal. Not to forget that Cummings, strategist that he is, apparently isn't here for the long haul, only being contracted until 31st October, when he goes for surgery he postponed to take on this job.

So what's the plan for Johnson Post Cummings? Or is he going to do even more 'winging it'.

Meanwhile there's an awful lot of moderate Tory MPs getting very nervous and already failing to stick to the Cummings script.

Johnson, until there is an election is going to firmly blow hot and cool, trying to play to the hopes and fears of leavers and remainers to keep them hanging on to hope and the notion that x or y will happen, when x and y can't possibly both happen because they are completely opposing strategies. Hope leads us blindly to stumble like fools into his trap and to win his reelection.

Next week looks very bumpy indeed. Chances are this thread won't make it past Saturday...

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Dontlickthetrolley · 29/08/2019 22:56

A local theme park had the lakes drained and dredged and paid a professional to relandscape an island in the middle of the lake. Google maps gives us a bird's-eye view of the work once completed!

Westminstenders: Game On?
TheCaddyisaBaddie · 29/08/2019 22:57

Pmk

Hazardtired · 29/08/2019 22:58

Starmer has a fleshy Lego shaped head...

woman Grin

Sostenueto · 29/08/2019 22:58

hazard can you imagine the noises JRM would make?Envy not envy.

Hoooo · 29/08/2019 22:58

Starmer has lego man hair.

It disturbs me.

BigChocFrenzy · 29/08/2019 23:00

David Rennie 任大伟 @DSORennie

I fear history will judge it a big mistake to use phrase “No Deal Brexit”.
Sounds misleadingly decisive, like UK rising from table-full of bullies & marching out.

Calling it “Nothing Agreed Brexit” would have captured long nightmare of wrangling it triggers

Hazardtired · 29/08/2019 23:01

sos oh I feel ill. Who would touch him. I bet his skin is clammy and cold. Shouts Hitler salutes at climax.

Well we are all having nightmares tonight Grin

Sostenueto · 29/08/2019 23:01

Everyone knows I love Berkow the speaker but only for his mind. He's too short for me. His feet aren't big enough.Wink

prettybird · 29/08/2019 23:04

I spent today (and yesterday) going through old paperwork going back to 1985 when I bought my first house I really should have a clear out Blush - but it would appear that, as I suspected, I'd had a combination of good advice (good bank manager Wink) and was financially astute myself (used to/stil love reading the financial advice pages of the weekend papers) and couldn't find any evidence of PPI.

tobee · 29/08/2019 23:05

Phew! No need for I spy 🕵️‍♀️

It's true, Sir Keir has got weird hair. I like brainy types though.

I've liked Alistair Campbell for years. --And Gordon Brown

ShockGrin

BigChocFrenzy · 29/08/2019 23:05

Heather Stewart@GuardianHeather

Eek - strong stuff from Conservative MP @GutoAberconwy:

“As Conservatives we prize loyalty.

But it has become increasingly clear that our loyalty must be to our party’s long-term values and not to the man who leads the party at this time."

cherin · 29/08/2019 23:07

Saw Starmer in real life too and really is not my type. The hair is all weird. And too short.

Turns out I have a work meeting 200yards from HoC on Tuesday next week at 2:00. Know where I can buy a body armour to walk ‘round there?? I’ll need a special risk assessment!

BigChocFrenzy · 29/08/2019 23:07

I hope noone on here pervs after the short-fingered demented Agent Orange

Hazardtired · 29/08/2019 23:09

Yes to GB I have a thing for soft Scottish accents.

tobee · 29/08/2019 23:09

Talking of posh men, why does a piece on the front page of The Torygraph not fill me with confidence when it's written by someone called Ambrose Evans-Pritchard?🤔

ContinuityError · 29/08/2019 23:10

Starmer has a fleshy Lego shaped head...

I’m thinking more Mr Potato Head.

Which is what DH calls Steve Backshall.

Apparently I like Mr Potato Heads.

NoWordForFluffy · 29/08/2019 23:11

Keir is short?! I'm out!

SistemaAddict · 29/08/2019 23:12

@Sostenueto I know a bloke with relatively small feet-a size 8. He has the perfect penis. I've had a fair few in my time and seen even more in my time as a nurse-but his is perfect. It's all in the girth to be fair. Never mind the length, feel the width! Although it's not short either, just average.

I dread to think what my dreams will be like tonight!

Hazardtired · 29/08/2019 23:12

Isn't Ambrose a custard brand?

prettybird · 29/08/2019 23:13

Interesting thing about the case currently going through the Scottish courts about stopping the suspension of parliament is that (according to Joanna Cherry earlier today) the Government's argument last month when it tried to have the case thrown out was that prorogation was hypothetical and wasn't going to be used.....Hmm

Scottish judge considering parliament shutdown challenge
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-49509712

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 29/08/2019 23:13

I didn't start it this time Flouncy

DontGrin

Surely I've been 'Trumped' by tobe's confession. Gordon Brown...what noises...?

RedToothBrush · 29/08/2019 23:14

Rees-Mogg is the "Honourable Member for the Eighteenth Century"...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-43044066

It is a little-known fact that the way a child looks depends entirely on its mother's imagination.

The book claims "if women cast their eyes on ill-shaped bodies, the force of imagination could produce a child with a hairy lip, wry mouth or great blubber-lips".

How to avoid this?

During sex women should "earnestly look upon the man and fix her mind upon him". Then the child will resemble its father - who hopefully does not have blubbery, hairy or "wry" lips.

And

Men wanting to "make their seed abound" should focus their diet on a combination of root vegetables and songbirds.

A long list of recommended foods to aid men's sexual function includes eggs, sparrows, blackbirds, gnat snappers, thrushes, partridges, parsnips, young pigeons, ginger and turnips.

It all becomes clear now. It's the bloody turnips.

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Jason118 · 29/08/2019 23:15

Ok, just stop it now. No wonder DGR is elsewhere, penis discussions ffs. We men feel inadequate at the best of times and now this. Woe is meSmile

pumkinspicetime · 29/08/2019 23:15

Agent orange you can keep, urggh.
Vile.

I worry slightly about the impact of a Scots court ruling against this.
I have noticed an edge creeping into some English friends when talking about things Scottish and political.

prettybird · 29/08/2019 23:15

Steve Backshall.

Now you're talking! GrinWinkGrinWink