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Westminstenders: Game On?

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RedToothBrush · 29/08/2019 21:35

Johnson has had prorogation approved by the Queen.

There has been widespread outrage and horror both in the UK and in Europe. Johnson has ripped up the principle of Liberal democracy even if constitutionally what he has done is legal. In shredding convention and the 'gentlemans agreement' of understanding we teeter on the edge of democratic collapse.

Talk is tha Dominic Cummings is persuing a game theory principle of deliberately putting us on collision course with the EU. The idea being that they will blink first because the alternative of what will happen is just too awful for them to allow. The idea is to force others to make the moves whilst Johnson appears principled and strong, even without a proper strategy and plan for a deal.

And there is the rub. Despite all the Talk of no deal, at some point a deal MUST be made, regardless of whether its before or after 31st October. There is no sense of what that could be and how it could be done. And then there's the prospect of a US deal which suffers from the same lack of tangibility.

All there is, is how things look for a General Election. Nothing else.

Johnson is pitching for an election with no sense of what's needed for Brexit - including the legislation needed for no deal. Not to forget that Cummings, strategist that he is, apparently isn't here for the long haul, only being contracted until 31st October, when he goes for surgery he postponed to take on this job.

So what's the plan for Johnson Post Cummings? Or is he going to do even more 'winging it'.

Meanwhile there's an awful lot of moderate Tory MPs getting very nervous and already failing to stick to the Cummings script.

Johnson, until there is an election is going to firmly blow hot and cool, trying to play to the hopes and fears of leavers and remainers to keep them hanging on to hope and the notion that x or y will happen, when x and y can't possibly both happen because they are completely opposing strategies. Hope leads us blindly to stumble like fools into his trap and to win his reelection.

Next week looks very bumpy indeed. Chances are this thread won't make it past Saturday...

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prettybird · 29/08/2019 21:37

Emergency cat on lap picture after the previous thread filled up so quickly Wink

Westminstenders: Game On?
ContinuityError · 29/08/2019 21:38

Thanks RTB - PMK with a fluiffly cat.

Westminstenders: Game On?
CrunchyCarrot · 29/08/2019 21:38

Wow new thread already. I expect next week there will be a flurry of them as things get even more hectic!

Many thanks Red! Flowers

BlackeyedGruesome · 29/08/2019 21:39

Pmk.

Still reading previous thread..

ContinuityError · 29/08/2019 21:41

fluiffly is obviously Doric for “fluffy”.

Foos yer doos?
Aye fluiffly

Smile
PerkingFaintly · 29/08/2019 21:41
IrenetheQuaint · 29/08/2019 21:41

I didn't realise Cummings is only signed up until 31 Oct Shock

Hoooo · 29/08/2019 21:45

I'm very stressed.

Baking a lemon drizzle level stress!

QueenOfThorns · 29/08/2019 21:47
Hoooo · 29/08/2019 21:51

Guess his work will be done by then irene?
Or maybe he will be leaving the uk before the flights/boats stop?

ContinuityError · 29/08/2019 21:51

Hoooo Gin is better than Cake

flouncyfanny · 29/08/2019 21:51

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Hoooo · 29/08/2019 21:52

Yes.
But people tend to judge if you swig gin on the school run....

woman19 · 29/08/2019 21:53

@EnglishRadical
"We are your principals, & you our agents. If you or any other shall assume or exercise any power that is not derived from our trust and choice thereunto, that power is no less than usurpation and an oppression from which we expect to be freed."

Richard Overton, Leveller, 1646.

Thank you red
mmmm lemon drizzle hoo

flouncyfanny · 29/08/2019 21:55

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yolofish · 29/08/2019 21:56

PMK, just thought of something to say but it has flown my mind... pretty much like the alleged govt then... my dog says balls to brexit in her latest post on FB @Tammie Win-etting at Life. It keeps me mildly sane!

TokyoSushi · 29/08/2019 21:56

P M flippin' K

Thanks Red!

LonelyTiredandLow · 29/08/2019 21:56

Catching the end of the last thread...agree BBC is completely biased now - they have to highlight Ken Clarke as "an ardent remainer" and Ian Duncan Smith yesterday was recorded saying that only a "few" remainers now objected to No Deal and had made it "their entire life purpose to stop Brexit" Hmm I may have put two fingers up at the radio...

Brexit is so dumb
Mogg can make dust bunnies fly
I need much more rum

flouncyfanny · 29/08/2019 21:58

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EngTech · 29/08/2019 21:58

Have put my three cats on 15 minute readiness in case they need to go to No. 10 and liaise with their cat as they will be able to do a better job 😎😎👍👍

Dontlickthetrolley · 29/08/2019 21:59

PMK, thanks Red

And also putting my hand up for Sir Starmer Blush

ContinuityError · 29/08/2019 22:00

But people tend to judge if you swig gin on the school run....

Either there’s a time difference or you’re so stressed you haven’t realised that it’s 10pm on a Thursday evening?

FMFL · 29/08/2019 22:02

Thanks Red

prettybird · 29/08/2019 22:05

DGR is going to feel left out I presume Wink - with all these middle aged women's fantasies Grin

I'm looking forward to seeing that Survation poll's results Grin It did include the serious questions about how you would vote/how you'd voted both in a GE and the EU Referendum. I was, of course, a 10 for "How likely I was to vote" Wink. You lot can make a pretty accurate deduction as to what my other answers were Grin