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Westminstenders: A photo opportunity

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RedToothBrush · 18/08/2019 21:05

Johnson likes publicity.

Any attention is good attention. Whilst you are talking about how crazy his idea is, the less you come up with your own.

And there it is. The lack of plan to stop no deal. Just a bunch of idiots who argue over who is more right about politics without offering up a practical solution.

Unable to see their own flaws.

And leading us ever closer to the cliff edge and operation Yellowhammer.

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RedToothBrush · 22/08/2019 19:20

Nick Clegg said very similar to me in the Evening Standard either the day after or two days after too. (but definitely AFTER is posted that).

Some of DID see where we are coming.

Maybe not the detail but certainly had a fairly good idea of where things would head.

And Remain has STILL not worked any of this shit out, as is demonstrated by their own lack of plan....

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theoriginalmadambee · 22/08/2019 19:22

Thank you very much both inniu and mathanxiety Smile.

Peregrina · 22/08/2019 19:22

Signed, but the answer will be as before 'Get stuffed'.

mathanxiety · 22/08/2019 19:24

we said we would probably find it in the next two years to come but we can also maybe find it in the next 30 days to come
TatianaLarina.

I think Merkel was saying 'if it's that easy, why couldn't a solution be found two years ago?'

prettybird · 22/08/2019 19:26

When I went to bed at c6am on 24 June 2016 and told a bleary, sleepy dh (who hadn't stayed up) that Leave had won and how close it was, he said, "Fuck, that's years of disruption and nothing but Brexit going on in government."

....and he's one of the ones that thinks (thought Wink) that in the end it wouldn't happen because it was so stupid - but realised that it would result in parliamentary paralysis but thought that they'd eventually come to their senses Sad ....and that was before Cameron ran away resigned.

woman19 · 22/08/2019 19:32

I wrote to my MP, David Gauke on June 25th asking him to help form a Government of National Unity and help forge a compromise brexit.
Got a reply about willy of the people. Think he's learnt his lesson now.

RedToothBrush · 22/08/2019 19:33

There was a survey into the reasons people voted published in early 2017. I can't remember what it was or I'd link it.

What was staggering about it was only 7% of people voted on the basis of issues relating to the EU.

So I'm of the opinion only 7% of people ever knew what they were voting for. Everyone else voted for reasons they thought were to do with the EU but weren't.

So I really do take it with a pinch of salt when people say they knew what they were voting for. But that applies to a majority of Remainers as well as Leavers.

That's the really sad part for me.

No one had a fucking clue.

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RedToothBrush · 22/08/2019 19:34

Got a reply about willy of the people

I hope that was a deliberate typo!!!

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PostNotInHaste · 22/08/2019 19:34

I know Peregrina but the last one did fractionally change the tone for a moment along with the March. There’s such a short amount of time between now and 31st October, They are relying on us being tired of the whole thing, feeling it is inevitable and sitting back doing nothing, a collective paralysis as OYBBK put it.

This is the time for those who do not want to crash out, whatever they originally voted and ultimately want, to not sit in silence.

TatianaLarina · 22/08/2019 19:39

math That translation was from another poster, I don’t know the original source.

mathanxiety · 22/08/2019 19:40

Blush apologies Tatiana.

woman19 · 22/08/2019 19:43

to not sit in silence
There are quite a lot of pro EU events coming up, we used to publicise them on the EU referendum thread. Is it worth doing again? (There's one in Manchester for the tory conference for example)

TatianaLarina · 22/08/2019 19:45

No worries Wine

woman19 · 22/08/2019 19:45

yes red deliberate Grin
mistigri still giggling at " you tend not to blow smoke up your donkey" the shift appears to have concluded. Smile

Peregrina · 22/08/2019 19:47

But that applies to a majority of Remainers as well as Leavers.

Not so. Remainers were voting for the status quo.

BigChocFrenzy · 22/08/2019 19:51

Math That wasn't Donald Tusk

You are probably thinking of what BJ wrote in 2013 - before he went to the Dark Side :

“If we left the EU… we would have to recognise that most of our problems are not caused by ‘Bwussels’,
but by chronic British short-termism, inadequate management, sloth, low skills, a culture of easy gratification and underinvestment in both human and physical capital and infrastructure…

Why are we still, person for person, so much less productive than the Germans?

That is now a question more than a century old, and the answer is nothing to do with the EU.”

BigChocFrenzy · 22/08/2019 19:55

After BJ was unable to say Merkel's name properly,
he continued on to Paris and put his foot on the table in the Elysee Palace Hmm

I'm not expecting statesmanship from him, but in both countries, at least minimum manners to his host

Westminstenders: A photo opportunity
TheMShip · 22/08/2019 19:56

BCF think math was attempting irony....

Hoooo · 22/08/2019 19:57

So..
Got my hands on another inhaler for ds1.
Still no hrt patches :(
Mum has her 2 week wait appt come through.
On a lighter note;
And ds1 did brilliantly in his gcses :)

PostNotInHaste · 22/08/2019 19:57

woman19, I think that’s a good idea.

I’d love to see peaceful marches all over the country focusing specifically on No Deal coordinated so they are all at the same time so people like my elderly neighbour who voted Leave but has been really distressed by what has happened could get out and have her say on the current state of this appalling mess. No way could she do a London March but she could just about do a local one.

TheMShip · 22/08/2019 19:58

And the foot on table thing looks bad but was in fact Macron joking that it looked like a footstool and Johnson going along with it.

Tom Rayner
(@RaynerSkyNews)
WATCH: Here’s the Reuters video of Boris Johnson putting his foot on the Elysee furniture. It seems President Macron was making small talk suggesting the table would work equally well as a footstool should the PM want to recline, which Johnson then jokingly does pic.twitter.com/dnv37t9mS4

BigChocFrenzy · 22/08/2019 20:00

LIE
Torygraph lying its headline off as usual
Its Brexiter readers seem to believe them, then feel angry & betrayed - at the EU - when the fantasy doesn't ppear

The Telegraph@Telegraph

Major boost for Boris Johnson as Emmanuel Macron says Withdrawal Agreement can be amended < 🤯 🤦🏻‍♀️ >
bit.ly/2TRaByI

BigChocFrenzy · 22/08/2019 20:01

Really bad time to make that sort of joke:

The photo whizzed around many countries well ahead of the explanation - which many people may not get to read anyway

BigChocFrenzy · 22/08/2019 20:03

Macron made the joke - but did he really expect BJ to put his foot on the table
(unless he was setting up BJ)

BigChocFrenzy · 22/08/2019 20:09

A coordinated pincer movement by the Dynamic Duo against Our Hero

Helene von Bismarck@HeleneBismarck

Superb performance by @EmmanuelMacron

The second chapter in his and Merkel‘s joint strategy to call Johnson‘s bluff.
......
Mujtaba Rahman@Mij_Europe

So @EmmanuelMacron has taken up & amplified Merkel’s 30 day challenge to @BorisJohnson,
arguing UK must produce “visibility” on its alternative ideas for backstop within 30 days.

No chance of sig change to WA, but urges @MichelBarnier to use 30 days to look at UK ideas (if any)