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Please can someone tell me the upsides of Brexit

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CleopatrasMum · 08/08/2019 21:11

Apparently Dominic Raab has said there are many upsides of Brexit. The article in the Guardian that I read this in gave no details of what Raab (presumably) went on to say those upsides were.

Please can someone explain them to me?

Link to article here for what it's worth:

Raab says Brexit will bring 'huge series of upsides' for UK trade

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/06/raab-says-brexit-will-bring-huge-series-of-upsides-for-uk-trade?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

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LatteLove · 08/08/2019 22:51

Same as we could have put parameters around benefits to EU migrants, @wizzybee

It’s a shitshow

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CleopatrasMum · 09/08/2019 00:03

@wherearemychickens it's good to know there may be one positive, though if it does end up coming largely at the expense of farmers' livelihoods that is a very poor trade.

Everyone else Grin it is pretty much as I thought then. Raab talking more rubbish.

For a long time I have thought that these politicians must know something I don't. They surely can't just be intent on driving the country into an abyss? But recently I have given up. They really are as stupid as they appear. It is soul destroying.

I think the attitude of the Brexiteers to the backstop and the GFA and their apparent ignorance of/total disregard for our history with Ireland has finally convinced me that we are being led by a crowd of small minded and venal dimwits. If only the opposition hadn't just disappeared in a puff of indecision we might have had some hope of rescuing ourselves from this unholy mess. But sadly I think it is too late.

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ZazieTheCat · 09/08/2019 00:06

*Small minded and venal dimwits” I like your turn of phrase there.

BlackeyedGruesome · 09/08/2019 00:27

Tax. Europe was introducing ways of preventing people avoiding paying tax they owe

Less regulations so business can make more money.

These benefits are only for certain people though.. I wonder if any of these people are promoting Brexit?

As for the rest of us... these might not be so advantageous... Especially if you work for the afore mentioned businesses..

YouKnowOneDayAtATime · 09/08/2019 00:31

Self determination.

LatteLove · 09/08/2019 00:40

Self determination.

We already have this

Cismyfatarse1 · 09/08/2019 00:44

There will be a GP in every household and a hospital on every street.

Money will be used to pave the streets because it will be so plentiful.

We will have an unlimited, practically free, supply of American chlorinated chicken and plastic goods from China.

We won't have to holiday in places with good weather, lovely food and other cultures.

We will be able to demonstrate British queuing and stoicism at border controls.

We will have unlimited lorry parking spaces instead of nasty motorways.

Janista · 09/08/2019 05:05

We will get our cuntry back 🇬🇧

Brexit isn't a financial issue. It's a democratic necessity.

lonelyplanetmum · 09/08/2019 05:16

Cunt ry?! I am guessing this typo was deliberate!

Anyway does Janista mean he is getting the UK back or getting Australia back as he lives there.
It is really odd for a poster to be so passionate about relinquishing EU membership (and all the unrestricted trade that brings ) when none of the shortages and downsides will affect him safely in the antipodes.

PortLouis1996 · 09/08/2019 06:07

To OP

This question has been subject of several threads. Many end up in rudeness.

PortLouis1996 · 09/08/2019 06:37

UK imports more from EU than it exports to the EU. So trade with EU is a loss making exercise. In 2018 UK trade deficit with EU was 64 Billion. The biggest individual loss maker is trade with Germany which produced a deficit of 22 Billion.

UK has a trade surplus with Non EU Countries.

Based on those facts it is little wonder the EU are breaking their backs to prevent UK from leaving the EU

SonEtLumiere · 09/08/2019 07:04

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BillywilliamV · 09/08/2019 07:11

Loving Radio 4 at the moment.
The presenters sit and listen to an expert for 5 minutes explaining ”It’s a shit show”
Presenter says “But the government have reassured us that it isn’t!”
Expert says “No, it’s a shitshow”. Presenter says “Thank you!”

frumpety · 09/08/2019 07:16

Based on those facts it is little wonder the EU are breaking their backs to prevent UK from leaving the EU

Utter unmitigated drivel Port . The UK negotiated a withdrawal agreement with the EU based on a set of intractable red lines, certain factions in Parliament didn't like it, none of these factions have actually come up with anything akin to a real plan to replace the bits they didn't like. This is not the fault of the EU.

Screamqueenz · 09/08/2019 07:20

Port I'm not sure you understand economics, in what way is importing goods that we require but don't manufacture or grow "loss making".

Janista · 09/08/2019 07:22

More BBC bias. Remoaner central, just like it was in the 2016 referendum campaign.

They were wrong then and are wrong now.

People need to pull together and have faith in the country instead of doing it down all the time.

Part of the uks problem is that half the people living in it secretly (or not so secretly) work against it and are unpatriotic.

Something which is less apparent in other countries which have pride in themselves.

The self hating of the bbc is nauseating.

bellinisurge · 09/08/2019 07:24

@@PortLouis1996 - that's all lovely. And crashing out of our largest market is a good thing because.....
Btw
Selling 20 widgets to EU when we import 21 from them is not the same as selling 3 widgets to NZ and importing 2. Transport costs/delivery times, my dear @PortLouis1996 .

Helmetbymidnight · 09/08/2019 07:25

brexiteers like to keep the many benefits they envisage secret because:
a. apparently they said them once before
b. you're not nice.

bellinisurge · 09/08/2019 07:25

@Janista , what's the weather like in your part of Australia today?

Helmetbymidnight · 09/08/2019 07:27

People need to pull together and have faith in the country instead of doing it down all the time.

thats not an 'upside' now, is it? its just a load of crap.

slipperywhensparticus · 09/08/2019 07:27

Blue passports

Umm we will have to holiday in the uk and as we all speak the same language therefore there is no point learning french in school 🤔 which leaves more class time for circle time and geography will be simpler as our maps get smaller

Fucked if I know

Janista · 09/08/2019 07:27

Not sure why you keep going on about Australia. It's irrelevant where I am at the moment, I'm British and have connections and family ties to the uk and a regular visitor.
I've just as much right to comment and vote as anyone living in the uk right now.

BertrandRussell · 09/08/2019 07:29

“People need to pull together and have faith in the country instead of doing it down all the time.”

OK. I am reminder, but I am also a pragmatist. I want the best possible outcome for the country In general and for me and my family in particular. I want Brexit to be a success.

Please tell me what to do. How do I pull together?

Helmetbymidnight · 09/08/2019 07:30

im sure janista wants all the cuntries back.

Grin whatever the fuck that means.
bellinisurge · 09/08/2019 07:31

It's not irrelevant @Janista . You don't have to worry about uk food supply and distribution. Hilarious that you think it's irrelevant and very telling about you.