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All threads in brexit seem to anti brexit? Mn is usually balanced... Were are pro b threads?

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Knittedjimmychoos · 13/07/2019 23:59

Looking for some lighter brexit relief by fellow leavers... Every thread I've glanced at seems to be dominated by renainers?

Is there any space for leaver on here?

Just interested... I wanted to chat...

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Clavinova · 20/07/2019 14:28

Yes, he's already had one go - going to India with great fanfare and slinking back with nothing because of one word.Visas.

You keep mentioning visas from India - it seems to bother you - but from my point of view, more visas to doctors, IT consultants and entrepreneurs from India is preferable to more people 'looking for work' from the EU. With a points-based immigration system we can give visas to doctors/nurses/academics/scientists etc.from the EU as well.

The Indian community in the UK does very well - they are not comparable to some of the poorer Asian communities in the North of England.

Peregrina · 20/07/2019 14:33

Visas from India don't bother me in the slightest, nor do E European Immigrants, but I am quite sure that those who voted for UKIP are bothered. That may only be 10-15% of the population but it was still a significant number.

There is absolutely nothing now to stop the Government giving visas to whoever they want. Why aren't they doing so?

ListeningQuietly · 20/07/2019 14:35

give visas
I believe the word you are looking for is "sell"
as the UK has the most expensive visas in the world
www.gov.uk/tier-2-general

1tisILeClerc · 20/07/2019 14:36

{You could start to apologise to the people whose lives you are buggering up.
Wtaf 😂😂
Apologise for exercising one's freedom to vote in a democracy?!}

It will be interesting to see how many of these 17.4 million pioneering 'leave' voters would be prepared to put a big sticker on their front windows come late December or mid January 2020 in celebration of their sunny uplands and new found prosperity.

mummmy2017 · 20/07/2019 14:38

DD's best friend is from non EU. Both parents have degrees, my child is classed as family by them.
I think there are students from 18 countries in her class 3 are from EU. Non of the students are rasist, it just doesn't seem to be an issue .

jasjas1973 · 20/07/2019 14:39

Yes i feel sure that a growing and increasingly prosperous country like India wants to lose its brightest professionals.

We have also cemented our reputation as rather racist and anti immigrant, prob unfairly but there you go.

The UK is not the draw it once was, there is a worldwide shortage of these professionals, they can go anywhere.

ListeningQuietly · 20/07/2019 14:39

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/18/african-uk-visa-rejections-home-office-global-britain
"We do not believe you are a researcher"

bellinisurge · 20/07/2019 14:40

"The Indian community in the UK does very well - they are not comparable to some of the poorer Asian communities in the North of England."
Where I live. Which is also Tommy Robinson country. Curious that you think those meatheads give a shit as to whether the people they hate come from India or Bangladesh. As a lot of them think Bangladesh is the EU.

Peregrina · 20/07/2019 14:41

You're slipping with your cutting and pasting Clavinova. Try this one about how we welcome Indian doctors.

mummmy2017 · 20/07/2019 14:42

Do you realise just how big 17.4 Million is...
Just how much effort was made by these people to get out and vote, to be counted ...
Yet you denigrate each and everyone because they won't fall in line with your views.

bellinisurge · 20/07/2019 14:43

I denigrate No Dealers. Any other version of Leave I can live with.
Stop trying to pretend there isn't a difference.

Peregrina · 20/07/2019 14:48

My cousin married an Indian and my DIL is half African and both are immigrants to this country and so what?

It doesn't alter the fact that there are significant numbers of people in this country who would be happy to see them both booted out. Regardless of the fact that one has a doctorate and worked in the NHS for all his working life and the other has a good degree and postgraduate qualifications. Such facts are lost on the Tommy Robinson/UKIP types. (In fact, one is no longer living in the UK.)

jasjas1973 · 20/07/2019 14:52

Do you realise just how big 17.4 Million is...Just how much effort was made by these people to get out and vote, to be counted...Yet you denigrate each and everyone because they won't fall in line with your views

You mean my friends Hairdresser who voted leave because her Grandad told her too? or a friend who voted Leave because he didn't like emission controls on 2 stroke engines but then admitted they run better than the older ones!

You are just reflecting why you voted onto all the other 17million voters, who voted the way they did for a huge variety of reasons and expected outcomes.

mummmy2017 · 20/07/2019 14:52

But we all voted to leave...
May failed in WA.
So now no deal is what will happen.
As I said the ones who couldn't be bothered to vote have screwed remain, for once they were the pivot of vote and truly failed you.

Peregrina · 20/07/2019 14:55

Yet you denigrate each and everyone because they won't fall in line with your views.

I have no problem in asking Clavinova what evidence she has that the other 17.5 million think the same way as she does. That's not denigrating anyone.

I could make a statement e.g. I live in a place where there is a lot of LibDem support and the Tory vote collapsed. If someone asks me why I make that statement, I can furnish the evidence of the last elections in support of it.

1tisILeClerc · 20/07/2019 14:56

I wonder how Tommy is enjoying his new temporary home.
Spare a thought for the poor darling.

1tisILeClerc · 20/07/2019 14:58

{As I said the ones who couldn't be bothered to vote have screwed remain, for once they were the pivot of vote and truly failed you.}
Do you understand how voting works?

mummmy2017 · 20/07/2019 15:00

But you keep saying that people were mislead, stupid, didn't research enough. So are you now saying some people vote well aware of what was to come, of what could happen right down to no deal in a bid to leave ...

1tisILeClerc · 20/07/2019 15:01

{May failed in WA.
So now no deal is what will happen.}

It's not sinking in, is it?
Ultimately the UK will have to sign up to A WA, of which the only WA which is available is waiting in Brussels. The EU are not going to make significant amendments, as they have been saying since December.

mummmy2017 · 20/07/2019 15:02

1tisILeClerc
Yes, if a million if the people who were able to vote had put an X in the Remain box instead of staying home, you would have won...

mummmy2017 · 20/07/2019 15:06

Sorry should be 1.5 Millon.
About a quarter of non voters.

Peregrina · 20/07/2019 15:08

And Farage, Rees-Mogg and Co wouldn't have shut up about it. Boris Johnson, well - he might have been happy to support because the cause he is most interested in is Boris.

mummmy2017 · 20/07/2019 15:11

I think you may have a problem...
The WA agreement in Brussels is dead.
Anything sorted now will not be a carbon copy of the one in Brussels, but something different ...

Clavinova · 20/07/2019 15:13

You're slipping with your cutting and pasting Clavinova.
Try this one about how we welcome Indian doctors.

I read your link Peregrina - too many Tier 2 applications in the same month - "The Home Office said any Tier 2 applications–which doctors come under–that are refused in oversubscribed months could reapply in future ones."

ContinuityError · 20/07/2019 15:14

Sorry should be 1.5 Million
About a quarter of non voters

Your maths is well out. 11.5 million registered voters did not vote.

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