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Westministenders: EARRRTHHHHHQQQUUUAAKKKKEEEE

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RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 23:06

Well.

Thats a surprise!

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DarlingNikita · 28/05/2019 12:16

So I'm a couple of days behind on the news of this, but I see that Johnson is pushing through a quickie divorce, presumably so he can move into Number 10 with his new squeeze.

Classy.

RedToothBrush · 28/05/2019 12:20

Matt Honeycombe-Foster @matt_hfoster
NEW: The Muslim Council of Britain has written to the equalities watchdog urging it to launch a separate probe into Conservative Islamophobia - including among MPs and members. Says Tories have shown a 'callous attitude' to complaints and 'denied' the problem.

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Oakenbeach · 28/05/2019 12:22

@Piggywaspushed

It would mean a majority of those who fled the Tories for the BP last week suddenly flocking back next week. It’s never going to happen...

But if you want to put your money where your mouth is, you can get 33/1 on them winning at Betfair... the same as the LDs

PinkieTuscadero · 28/05/2019 12:24

Apparently Johnson’s chances of making it to No.10 are getting slimmer by the day. It would give me great pleasure indeed to see his crestfallen face if someone else gets the job.

Peregrina · 28/05/2019 12:25

I wouldn't bet on some Tories not going back. UKIP swept the board in the 2014 Euro elections but then did dismally the year after in the GE. This will be an interesting test. If they don't win, but come second there will be a lot of whining from Farage.

PinkieTuscadero · 28/05/2019 12:25

Tories only care about religious intolerance when it's a stick they can use to beat Labour with. Islamophobia is okey dokey with them when its in their own ranks.

RedToothBrush · 28/05/2019 12:26

Nick Morgan MP @ nickymorgan01
Ways not to endear yourself to colleagues #1 - get someone to encourage standard emails are sent on your behalf to ensure you’re on the ballot paper - please @BorisJohnson I’ve got enough emails about real local & national issues of concern already!

Apparently Guido Fawkes is backing Johnson and getting people to mail Tory MPs with standard letters to lobby them to support Johnson.

Nick Morgan doesn't seem thrilled about it.

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RedToothBrush · 28/05/2019 12:29

Alastair Campbell has been given the boot from the Labour Party for publically saying he voted LD.

They best get on twitter and boot quite a few people, hadn't they?!

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woman19 · 28/05/2019 12:29

Is 2 million 10 or 20% of the number of voters in the EU elections?

Scottish lady on now who's daughter was denied vote in London. Shock

The #deniedmyvote, could have brought the turquoise party down to below 2014 levels?

Similar for a GE, how many seats for them?

Without the 'hanging chad' debacle, there would have been a President Gore.........

RedToothBrush · 28/05/2019 12:32

Looks like Rory has the support of an important Tory MP. Sorry ex MP.

George Osborne @ george_osborne
Fascinating interview with ⁦*@RoryStewartUK⁩ ⁦*@EveningStandard⁩ today on why he’d be talking to Len McCluskey, Nigel Farage, lessons from Iraq and on that ‘engaging journalist’ Boris.

Ho ho ho.

Well that might explain why Team Raab and Team Johnson are a bit pissed this morning!!!

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1tisILeClerc · 28/05/2019 12:32

Surely Tories would go back for a UK election. The EP vote was to select MEPs and seems to have been treated as all things to everyone with the oddity that unless you voted Brexit (maybe) the chance of actually exiting was lower.
The whole situation is so back to front with great confusion I would see the EP vote as an 'indicator' but only temporarily.
But what do I know?

Peregrina · 28/05/2019 12:33

I wonder if Campbell will join the Lib Dems properly?

Without the 'hanging chad' debacle, there would have been a President Gore.........

You are so right. No Bush, probably no 9/11, no Iraq War, no Trump. Truly world events can turn on what seem in a global scale to be minor.

StripeyChina · 28/05/2019 12:43

George Osborne's endorsement surely has to be the kiss of death for Rory Stewart?
(I am the last person who believes you should judge a person on their appearance but I can't look at RS without thinking of the TV adaptation of Gormenghast, about 5? years ago)

PinkieTuscadero · 28/05/2019 12:44

Lots of comment on Twitter as to how Labour are much swifter at booting out people who show disloyalty at the ballot box than they are at booting out antisemites.

PinkieTuscadero · 28/05/2019 12:45

I think Rory Stewart looks like a Victorian rector with a delicate constitution and a dark secret.

PinkieTuscadero · 28/05/2019 12:47

Robert Peston
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In decades covering politics, I have never known anyone as obsessively tribally Labour as ⁦*@campbellclaret*⁩. Expelling him so rapidly for voting LibDem, even though he did not promote what he was doing, while taking ages to expel alleged...
antisemites, sends out the oddest of messages. Parties that are so intolerant of political dissent rarely prosper in our first-past-post system, where the coalition is the party itself

StripeyChina · 28/05/2019 12:53

It was Jonathan Rhys-Meyer who played 'Steerpike' in that, I see...

woman19 · 28/05/2019 12:53

Campbell is Snowball in 'Animal Farm' now. Sad
With added irony that it's the trots who are doing this to the party.

StripeyChina · 28/05/2019 12:57

Pinkie - Yes!
I always feel you shouldnt label people by their faces but, when you look at the FrogFace, HamfaceCam, OsbornesSlySwivelEyes, Boris'ClownishGurning it does start to become hypnotic...and the character of the man seems to show?
Mind you I really dislike Esther McVey, but admire her hair tremendously (shallow)

PinkieTuscadero · 28/05/2019 13:03

stripey if I was forced to say something nice about McVey I'd go for the hair too! Grin

DGRossetti · 28/05/2019 13:04

Surely Tories would go back for a UK election.

Only Leavers. Why on earth would a former Tory voting Remainer now go back to the official Leave party ? Ultimately the Tories have openly and with no shame or compunction told their Remainer supporters to go fuck themselves. With a nasty whiff of "you're not really English if you don't support Leave".

Well that's how a remain-voting Tory friend put it.

MaudBaileysGreenTurban · 28/05/2019 13:06

Oh god, McVey's blow-dry is a thing of wonder and beauty.

Sadly she is abhorrent in every other way.

RedToothBrush · 28/05/2019 13:14

The #deniedmyvote, could have brought the turquoise party down to below 2014 levels?

In a word NO.

To get the popular vote down to 27.49% you would need another 1,892,816 people to have voted and not one of them voting Brexit Party.

Whilst we know that there are thousands who were prevented from voting and thats very wrong, I don't think we can claim it would have affected the popular vote to that degree. There is no evidence that the scale of those denied the vote runs to 1.8million.

We know what did change the election was the number of seats that went to the Brexit party because people voted for Change UK rather than the LDs. This was around 25,000 votes in the NE and Wales and 100,000 votes in the SE.

If there were a significant number of people denied a vote in a particular region who were likely to vote LDs this could have affected the outcome.

These numbers are much smaller than the numbers required to affect the popular vote.

The numbers required to affect the number of seats in other regions represent a percentage of the vote which would be much bigger.

I think its dreadful that people were denied a vote from a purely democratic right point of view. But to say that it might have been possible to keep the vote below 2014 levels is not true and unhelpful, but you could make an argument to say there may have been enough people denied in certain areas who, if they had been allowed to vote, might have been able to change the result.

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PinkieTuscadero · 28/05/2019 13:15

Expelling Campbell but keeping Hoey (an actual MP) who spends her time prancing around with Farage seems a tad inconsistent to me...

PigeonofDoom · 28/05/2019 13:15

Just imagine Philip Davies running his hands through that hair

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