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Westminstenders: Local Elections Madness

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RedToothBrush · 27/04/2019 22:37

This week has gone from banging your head against the wall to wanting to bang your head through it.

Labour have voted to support a 2nd ref as their EU election campaign strategy. Only for Corbyn to ignore it. And a row has broken out.

Change UK seem well on track to make everyone else look professional and to look as 'liberal elite' as humanly possible in a real life reverse paraody of themselves.

The Brexit Party is going from strength to strength with the most wtf candidates imaginable and Farage is happy cos his mate is coming to tea with the Queen.

The Liberal Democrats have decided that anti semitism is OK in an effort to keep Labour seats.

And the Conservatives. Where to start? Probably with the Tory Leadership Election infighting which looks suspiciously as if its now breached national security.

As for Brexit. No one really wants to talk about it. Local elections are next week. May is now apparently supporting the Malthouse Compromise. Be warned, it is difficult to see it as anything but a Trojan Horse for No Deal. Not that everyone has worked this out yet. But until we have the blood bath of the local elections over and done with on Thursday, don't expect much to happen.

Then expect the Tories to lose their minds...

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frumpety · 30/04/2019 09:29

jasjas hasn't Russia had a bash at cutting cables along the floor of the Channel in recent past ?

borntobequiet · 30/04/2019 09:30

Reports on the Spanish elections said that the Right did worse than expectd because people voted for the socialists not because they were greatly enamoured of them but to keep the far right out - plus the right wing vote was split.
Hopefully people will vote to keep the likes of Y-L out.

jasjas1973 · 30/04/2019 09:34

Have they? always been rumours that they could try but of course Russia isn't bidding to build 5G... well not yet anyway.

Peregrina · 30/04/2019 09:35

I would just like to remind people again, that the public are very very fickle - until the 2017 GE the Tories couldn't get enough of Theresa. Now she can't do a thing right. But she has survived and survived when others would have been seen off long ago! So I wouldn't write her off until she's actually outside the door at No 10 telling us she's resigned. I don't think she will then go back in whistling a happy tune, I think she will be like Thatcher, with the hankies at the ready.

LonelyTiredandLow · 30/04/2019 09:37

@jasjas The US, would not actively seek to wreck the UK, either economically or militarily, China would.
I think that is subjective...
We are worth more to both of them "alive" so to speak, but I don't know why we would trust any other country to have our best interests at heart?

Cailleach1 · 30/04/2019 10:13

Looks like D. Coburn has fallen between two stools in his haste to climb onto 'looks like more of a winning' bandwagon. Shame, isn't it?

www.thenational.scot/news/17598741.coburn-snubbed-by-farage-as-former-ukip-mep-fails-to-make-brexit-party-list/?ref=twtrec

1tisILeClerc · 30/04/2019 10:34

{The US, would not actively seek to wreck the UK, either economically or militarily, China would.}

The motives and approach taken by the superpowers are different. China seems to want world domination by trade and generally a 'softly softly' approach. America is mostly (or in the past was) largely brash and 'free market but with rules to protect America. Russia, perhaps more stamping around militarily and secret 'long games'.
If the UK is going to align itself part way between the USA and China it could be the worst of many possibilities as it will be in the firing line between Washington and Beijing (trade deals etc rather than as a military target). Particularly volatile with the orange one in the White house.

OublietteBravo · 30/04/2019 10:36

With regards this grassroots plot to rid us of TM, I'd imagine that we're probably at the very edge of being able to join the Conservatives to get a leadership vote. I'm not sure I could stand doing it, but is it worth holding my nose?!

You need to have been a member for 3 months to be eligible to vote. I held my nose and joined just over a month ago for this very reason, along with some like-minded friends. (BTW - you can pay the annual £25 membership fee monthly).

NoWordForFluffy · 30/04/2019 10:42

I know it's 3 months. But if their meeting isn't until mid-June, then surely there won't be a vote for about 3 months? Just! Hence saying is this now the last chance to join. But it may just be too late.

How long is a leadership contest?

NoWordForFluffy · 30/04/2019 10:43

Hmmm. Looking at it, it may just be out of time.

TatianaLarina · 30/04/2019 10:54

PMK Gin

catdoctor · 30/04/2019 11:02

Apologies if this has been posted; is there a site anywhere that give profiles on MEP candidates? I’m in West Mids.

DGRossetti · 30/04/2019 11:03

China seems to want world domination by trade and generally a 'softly softly' approach.

I think it's important to understand why China, Russia and the US all appear hell bent on World Domination, as it might help interpreting their actions.

Ultimately it's less about actual domination and more about security. The logic being that if you control the whole world, then you can't ever be attacked, invaded, or subjugated. It's less about oppression and more about protection.

That said, there are some quite mainstream interpretations I've come across which suggest that for communism or Islam to work "properly" the whole world needs to be communist or Islamic. Which is an updating of the previous drive to make the entire globe Christian ....

Not sure where that leaves us, though.

NoWordForFluffy · 30/04/2019 11:11

Ah ha, EP poll cards have arrived. They're sending postal votes by 15.05, to chase if not received by 17.05. Tight margins there!

1tisILeClerc · 30/04/2019 11:14

Being trolled again on Spotify, Three dog night : Black and white.

My 'assessment' is of course less than 'skin deep' and of course you could spend a lifetime researching it.

jasjas1973 · 30/04/2019 11:47

@LonelyTired.

I think i'd trust the USA over the Chinese and the Russians, Trump can and hopefully will be voted out, Putin and Xi Jinping cannot, indeed, Xi has made himself some sort of God..... and is acting like some sort of Pharaoh
The Chinese Belt and Road Initiative is designed to promote the further Chinafication of the world, as they have already done in Africa.
I think it was Stalin or Lenin who said "The Capitalists Will Sell Us the Rope with Which We Will Hang Them" he failed but China, with our help, seems to be doing rather better.

OublietteBravo · 30/04/2019 12:00

I’ll be eligible to vote in a Tory leadership contest from 26 June. Surely it won’t happen before that, so hopefully I joined in time to have a say.

DadDadDad · 30/04/2019 12:02

is there a site anywhere that give profiles on MEP candidates?

That's a good question. Last night, I used the BBC news site to get list of candidates in my constituency, then to find out about candidates, I googled the top name in each list (name + party) to find out more. Results were variable:

I could find the Lib Dem, but the only helpful info was in a section about their selection as a Westminster candidate last year.

Greens - I found nothing, but the candidate is a professor so has a web presence that way (eg Wikipedia!).

Change UK - googling "Emma Taylor Change UK" brings up a whole load of Emma Taylors and no obvious sign of a Change UK website, so I'll need to try harder...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48081172

Ten points for working out which constituency I'm in. Grin

DadDadDad · 30/04/2019 12:07

Googling "Emma Taylor" "Change UK" (with those quotation marks included to match those exact strings) brings up her Twitter account.

I don't think Change UK have a website of their own.

Iambuffy · 30/04/2019 12:22

hazard 💐 that's so shit, I'm sorry.

Had some news about my HRT this morning. For those of us who cannot take oral hormones, well....we are fucked, basically.

The alternative I was offered?
Prozac.

I might just take them up on it!!

Let's hope the reduction in oestrogen doesn't trigger my dangerous heart arrhythmias, eh?

Because being blue lighted to resus is so much cheaper than a bloody HRT patch!

(Sorry, but of a rant , and nothing like what you are dealing with hazard)

tobee · 30/04/2019 12:23

Skim read the thread this morning and didn't see an answer as to who UK European Party Union Party are. Anyone thoughts please?

tobee · 30/04/2019 12:26

Iambuffy dh got a call from our gp surgery yesterday to say they can't get of one of his meds at our local pharmacy. This one is metoprolol, for blood pressure.

Iambuffy · 30/04/2019 12:40

I'm dreading mums meds not being available.
She's on so many...

prettybird · 30/04/2019 12:44

Cailleach1 - I'd noticed that the odious, execrable Jabba the Hutt one wasn't on either of the Leave parties' lists. Couldn't have happened to a nicer person! Grin

woodpigeons · 30/04/2019 12:53

Surely things aren’t that bad lonelyplanet.
I lived under Banda.
People he didn’t like had mysterious car crashes or just disappeared.
Foreigners found themselves on the next plane home for reasons like not standing for the national anthem. Sometimes they didn’t know the reason.
His picture had to be in every public building and had to be hung higher than anything else.
He had a group of young people called young pioneers spying for him, like Hitler youth, there was said to be one in every classroom.
If you wanted to speak about the government, and everything you said could be misconstrued, you spoke quietly to people you trusted and made very sure nobody could overhear.
He was far more oppressive than Mugabe whose country I also lived in.