Westminstenders: Local Elections Madness

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This week has gone from banging your head against the wall to wanting to bang your head through it.

Labour have voted to support a 2nd ref as their EU election campaign strategy. Only for Corbyn to ignore it. And a row has broken out.

Change UK seem well on track to make everyone else look professional and to look as 'liberal elite' as humanly possible in a real life reverse paraody of themselves.

The Brexit Party is going from strength to strength with the most wtf candidates imaginable and Farage is happy cos his mate is coming to tea with the Queen.

The Liberal Democrats have decided that anti semitism is OK in an effort to keep Labour seats.

And the Conservatives. Where to start? Probably with the Tory Leadership Election infighting which looks suspiciously as if its now breached national security.

As for Brexit. No one really wants to talk about it. Local elections are next week. May is now apparently supporting the Malthouse Compromise. Be warned, it is difficult to see it as anything but a Trojan Horse for No Deal. Not that everyone has worked this out yet. But until we have the blood bath of the local elections over and done with on Thursday, don't expect much to happen.

Then expect the Tories to lose their minds...

Well, this is fucking depressing about Leavers
New graphs comparing Remainer / Leaver attitudes

David Shariatmadari@D_Shariatmadari (guardian)

40% of Leavers feel that to be 'truly' British, it's very important that both of your parents are born in the UK.

So Lenny Henry isn't truly British; Andrew Adonis isn't; David Baddiel isn't; I'm not; Geri Halliwell isn't; PRINCE PHILIP isn't

www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2019/may/02/leavers-v-remainers-how-britains-tribes-compare

DG, pretty Are you "truly British"

Apparently, I'm not

40% of Leavers feel that to be 'truly' British, it's very important that both of your parents are born in the UK.

Well knock me down with a feather.

I meet that criterion, but DH doesn’t.

I've just voted and on the whole page of names and addresses I was the only one to be ticked off. I'm guessing will be a low voter turnout in our area. There wasn't a single other person there or walking to/from polling station. We have had only one flyer and no visits so I think people just don't care.

Just been and voted - only used 4 of my 5 votes for Town Council as I refuse to vote Tory, Labour, or LD as these were the remaining candidates. If there was a UKIP standing in my ward they wouldn't have been voted for either.

I voted Green (who is basically an Independent with Green tendencies - like myself) plus 3 Independents including 2 new candidates - good for them wanting to give it a go...

My 3 District Votes went to the same Greenand Newbie Indie
candidates.

Walked past the Masonic Hall on my way - they must be having an Event tonight as they were going in all suited and booted. Maybe they're having a Vote Watch night.

Will it be Vote Watch on MN Brexit tonight?

Prince Charles isn’t truly British then...

BigchocFrenzy
So that makes my kids not British as I'm an immigrant

How does it classify all the Army kids born in Germany ?

That's it : since I'm not truly British, I may as well go all out as if I weren't already to be Scottish

Not only was only one of my parents born in the UK (as it happens, Scotland, but only because of the war as her dad was one of the architects working on the Rolls Royce factory at Hillington -her parents were actually Australian) but neither was I

We only arrived in the UK when I was 3 - my dad as a Commonwealth citizen (even though South Africa had been ejected, there was a grace period) so we could easily have been one of the Windrush generation, except we were white, middle class and travelled so naturalised and had passports and my mum on her British passport thanks to having been born here by chance

That also means that ds is not truly British. He'll be fine with that as he just wants to be Scottish

Plus he could play rugby for South Africa if Scotland doesn't recognise his talent

Most Leavers - Texiters - are monarchists ... and their future King isn't British

40% of Leavers feel that to be 'truly' British, it's very important that both of your parents are born in the UK.

Interesting - I know several people with British UK born parents who have been raised overseas who are very keen to not be identified as British in ANY WAY!

pretty I've been told by many a Scot that I can't be Scottish as only my Father was Scottish, my mother was English and I was born in England - so good luck with that one.

Quite a lot of the older generation may have been born on military bases in the colonies we still had in the 1940s, 1950s, 1960s when we had much larger armed forces, with accompanying spouses

So does that 40% exclude them ?

I’m surprised it’s not ‘both parents born in England’

I am truly British - and really don’t feel it anymore.

Now to indoctrinate my kids that they are Scottish.........

DG, pretty Are you "truly British"

Well, not by Nuremberg standards. Also, I'd be a little curious as to what "British" means in that context. Remember, Leavers don't consider Northern Ireland part of Britain. So there go Kenneth Branagh, and anyone born in NI. George Best.

My Mums DF was born in Darjeeling. So I'm waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down the list.

Random18 I was about to say, it should read "truly english"

Hateisnotgood
plus 3 Independents including 2 new candidates - good for them wanting to give it a go...
I hope you checked out each of the independents
as a lot of UKIP folks are standing as independents this time

I've never come across any resentment that I define myself as Scottish - in fact, all the Scots (SNP or not) I know are proud of the fact that they welcome anyone who simply wants to be Scottish, wherever they were born, that it is civic, not ethnic nationalism.

Maybe it's because I'm in Glasgow and in a highly multi-cultural area

The biggest problem I have is my dh telling me that I am not truly Glaswegian because I was brought up in Bearsden/Milngavie

Prettybird - it is super posh there!!!

DH gets annoyed when people ask where we are from and I say Glasgow. We both grew up in a local town but I have no problem saying Glaswegian as I was born there.

I would never say anyone is not Scottish if that’s what they want to be. I would never say anyone whose family have emigrated are not English / British.

Yet I tell my kids who were born in England that they are Scottish 🙈

My dad still lives just outside Bearsden/Milngavie and considers himself Glaswegian - despite his South African accent He even finally supports ABE (took a while because until apartheid was over, he couldn't support SA even if they were playing England )

I've lived on the Southside now for over 25 years (forget Scottish/English, or even Weegie/Edinburger, Northside/Southside is the real dividing line )

The independents standing in my areas are basically UKIP or Conservatives, certainly right wing anyway. I think you have to be quite careful to check out the independent candidates before voting for them.

Talkin of course I checked out the Independents! I know that trick so if they were an Indie (Tory, Lab, LD, UKIP) they wouldn't have got my vote - they were all validated by myself prior to getting my vote.