Westminstenders: Local Elections Madness

[RedToothBrush]

This week has gone from banging your head against the wall to wanting to bang your head through it.

Labour have voted to support a 2nd ref as their EU election campaign strategy. Only for Corbyn to ignore it. And a row has broken out.

Change UK seem well on track to make everyone else look professional and to look as 'liberal elite' as humanly possible in a real life reverse paraody of themselves.

The Brexit Party is going from strength to strength with the most wtf candidates imaginable and Farage is happy cos his mate is coming to tea with the Queen.

The Liberal Democrats have decided that anti semitism is OK in an effort to keep Labour seats.

And the Conservatives. Where to start? Probably with the Tory Leadership Election infighting which looks suspiciously as if its now breached national security.

As for Brexit. No one really wants to talk about it. Local elections are next week. May is now apparently supporting the Malthouse Compromise. Be warned, it is difficult to see it as anything but a Trojan Horse for No Deal. Not that everyone has worked this out yet. But until we have the blood bath of the local elections over and done with on Thursday, don't expect much to happen.

Then expect the Tories to lose their minds...

It's hard to say what will happen Red - The Torygraph is a Brexit rag after all. At the moment they are trying to forget about local elections coming up this week.

PMK with thanks, Red.

If you think you've seen batshit .....

After the Tories receive their local election humiliation, all bets are off as to what new levels of Brexit idiocy are to come.

At the least, I expect the 1922 Committee to revisit (again) the rules on challenging a leader

Tommy Robinson in line for up to £2million in taxpayers' cash if elected to European Parliament

I do find it sinister btw that he is usually surrounded by people in black berets and / or camouflage
Remember that photo at a petrol station with all the young army recruits in uniform

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/04/27/tommy-robinson-line-2-million-taxpayers-cash-elected-european/

Tommy Robinson could exploit EU rules to access millions of pounds of public money if he is elected in May’s European Parliament elections, a Telegraph investigation has revealed.

The far right activist and his cronies could personally benefit to the tune of up to £2 million
but he could access even more EU cash

If May does destroy the Tory party I will allow myself a moment of schadenfreude, because it's the one thing, after her husband, which is dearest to her.

They are expected to get a humiliation because they were riding high at the last elections, so the only way is down.

{The far right activist and his cronies could personally benefit to the tune of up to £2 million
but he could access even more EU cash}

I am sure he has pledged to use all money he receives to eliminate foodbanks and for regeneration projects in the UK.
Alternatively, probably not.

Yes the military hero worship of Tommy is alarming and widespread in Leavers. My fb leaver has already told me that he thinks Tommy "speaks a lot of truth" although he hasn't come out as a full fan.

If we were to No Deal and there was need for Civil Contingencies Act to take place, that is where I would worry a military coup would creep in and over-take what I already see as a coup by the Tories.

Surely the military don't like having soldiers plastered on the news with Tommy?

Farage and Tommy Robinson. What a dangerous pair.

I think we can get a good idea of remain figures by looking at this about whether we should have held the ref and the fact that 55% think it shouldn't have taken place. Actually that is quite an alarmingly low number given the 3 years of chaos and political stalemate with distraction from Brexit enabling funding to stall across all sectors.

PMK

I think there is too much fuss in the media about the likely European Parliament election results and not enough on the continued total failure of MPs to develop a workable Brexit plan. The number of MEPs elected for each party doesn't make much tangible difference to anything, unless of course we stay in the EU, in which case we want MEPs who engage with the EU's political processes rather than just trousering their perks.

I've had nothing through for the local ejections apart from labour. Lib dems sent some bumf out a few weeks back but I think it was just their regular shite that I feed straight to the recycling bin.Theres lots of Lib Dem boards and posters up in windows and gardena but far more labour ones. This is a pretty safe Tory Seat though although it used to be a Lib Dem strong hold.

The local labour candidate is a great woman. Pro Europe and pro women and very involved locally so will get good results I think. But labour themselves are not pro Europe or pro women so that causes me disquiet. The Tory mp is a complete twat. Lib Dems are woke, greens are woke, not heard anything about an independent this time round. I'm lost.

local ejections indeed

Ironically, I have had one conservative leaflet through. It exclusively focused local issues. It's mostly a safe labour seat here, although I have spotted a UKIP poster on the street (I feel sorry for the Asian family living next door to them).

Tory implosion beckons. I don't think UKIP will do that well since the vote is now split.

I've been canvassing for someone close to me who is a councillor - independent- and what I hear are

• Tory voters who won't bother this time as a signal of displeasure
• depressing numbers of all stripe saying "never going to vote again as voting its a farce"
• depressing numbers of "I never vote"

Rage from all sides the Brexit. But conservatives (con council) are going to get a beating. The con candidate here has canvassed the posh houses only.

The EP results can indeed make a difference to how Brexit is resolved:

A strong showing for BREX would:

• give more political clout to the No Dealers & Malthouse unicorners

• make it more likely that May will be replaced soon - under changed rules - by an ERG PM, probably Boris

• make it much less likely that the E27 would agree to a further extension in October

In domestic UK politics,
it would strengthen the hard right wing of the Tories and the increasingly authoritarian trend in the country

Well if any Tory canvassed this posh mansion (inhabited by various impecunious middle class Europhiles) they’d get seen off PDQ.

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Yes, agree that a high % vote for the Brexit party would strengthen the hard right up to a point... But it wouldn't change the facts on the ground re the WA.

Also, the media seems to be much more focused on the splits in the Labour party and uselessness of the Remain parties. If the main concern is the Brexit party, then actually the important thing is to get Leavers voting Tory or Labour rather than Brexit.

It's possible of course that my analysis here is flawed by spending too much time reading the Guardian!

I've messaged the local green candidate. Will see what she says.

Article in the Times about Brexit heloing IRA recruit which again has odd links with the Tommy brigade...

Farage and Tommy Robinson. What a dangerous pair.

There was a poster/magazine advert for a partwork about the Nazis many years ago ... I wish I could remember the exact assignations, but it had pictures of Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels, Goering and Mengele, and underneath:

Madman, Mystic, Master of propaganda, , (there was an alliterative element) Find out how they came to power ....

I'm guessing that posters on this thread weren't the only ones .

I wonder if this is akin to how Rome became an empire - despite the assassination of Caesar ? Because my reading of those events is that there was a definite resistance to empire and a recollection and shared memory of the terror of tyrants in Rome. And yet still it happened. With people watching helplessly with horror. Until they too became dust.

Not a very Brexit related post but DGR your , looks like the top of a cat!
Need to figure out whiskers and mouth....

I’m still unsure of who to vote for in the EU elections. The website mentioned on the previous thread told me that, as I’m in the South East, I should vote for my preference.

So, that leaves me with LDs, Greens and ChangeUK. How do I decide who to vote for to show I would like to remain?

There’s currently 10 MEPs....

4 UKIP
3 Con
1 Lab
1 LD
1 Greens

Regal cat stealing taking my place

Got our polling cards through yesterday. Will be volunteering to do canvassing to get people out.

Can't remember who asked but iirc, the polling for Scotland is a bit all over the place. Looks like the SNP might get 3, possibly even 4 seats, with Labour 1, Green 1 and Brexit Party 1 (assuming SNP don't get 4, which I think unlikely). I think the polls suggested the 6th seat would 4 way fight between Brexit Party, Greens, Conservative and the 4th SNP seat.

I think you'd need to see closer to the time his the polls were going: the Remain vote should go either to SNP or Greens. And judging by the SNP Spring Conference yesterday, they should have lots of feet on the ground.