Westminstenders: 1001 Ways to wait for EUCO - Sprouts, Nits and Brexit

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Not much more to say other than, all we can do is wait to hear our fate.

Which seems to lie in the hands of Macron.

I think these tweet sums a lot of it up from a couple of jaded soft leavers

Iain Martin @ iainmartin1
This terrible farce in Brussels tonight is like being British during the eurovision song contest. British entrant awaits fate, watching humiliating results come in, trying to smile for the audience back home.

George Trefgarne @georgetrefgarne
To be honest I think Buck’s Fizz and Cheryl thingummy would have made a better job of it

My advice: Don't wait up!

Pippa Crerar @pippacrerar
EU source on Macron: "He is in a bit of a schizophrenic situation - (his) domestic audience demands that he is tough on Britain for historic reasons. On the other hand, France is among the most-hit in any no-deal Brexit. It will take hours before we pull him down from his tree."

So Macron may end up being the one who gets the UK what it wants but is doing it to be tough on us. I'm not sure I understand EU politics.

Absolutely no idea who to vote for.

Keep the fuckers guessing !

Speaking of tangents - a few threads ago there was a Boston tangent (78% leave vote, high EU immigration, low integration, long standing deprivation etc.). A Lincolnshire friend shared this on Facebook just now, it's rather nice and vaguely relevant after the literary chat earlier: doortodoorpoetry.com/2019/04/12/boston-the-most-divided-place-in-england/

I don’t foresee the Tory’s losing out in leave areas such as mine. The consensus here is that May has tried her best and that it’s the remain parliament that’s at fault for voting against it. We re of use that it’s not a confirmatory vote at all but a re run to get a remain result. It’s labout who’ll be hit in our areas if they go for that

Near me May is not getting the blame at all (I’m in the Shires area)

Louise it actually isn't the case that the vast majority of Scots are "over represented" at Westminster. Once you take out the island constituencies and adjust for the disproportionately low levels of non-citizen residents in Scotland Westminster constituency sizes are roughly the same as England.

If I lived in the Isle of Wight I would feel aggrieved.

What is anomalous is the disproportionate share of Westminster seats held by the SNP, but that is a function of their vote concentration and exacerbated by the UK media reporting them as the voice of Scotland when they actually only hold just over half the seats and poll under 50% of the Scottish vote. Since they don't even hold a majority in Holyrood it is also a bit weird that theirs is the only voice heard in UK circles from there as well.

Scotland is no more 1 amorphous blob than England is and yet it is constantly being reported as suffering from group think. Contrast that with NI where no-one suggests the DUP speaks for the whole Nation or even Wales where a multiplicity of views are reported.

Sunshine
Talking to friends who re elected Tories (work means I deal with a lot of them) they are really, really worried.
Pro Europe Tories will move to the centre
Pro Brexit Tories will move to Farage or Batten

and as more news comes out about the £1,500,000,000.00 wasted on no deal preparations
enough to run every British school for two weeks
the backlash against those who cased the mess will grow

I actually don't disagree with howabout - although to be fair on the SNP, they remain in favour of PR, even though it would mean fewer seats for them, because that would be more representative of Scotland.

Shame that the two main parties don't take that attitude.

I have not caught up, but just in case nobody else has posted this -

The Times today (Francis Elliott Political editor)

Major obstacles remain, not least the issue of a second referendum. Emily Thornberry, the shadow foreign secretary, Keir Starmer, the shadow Brexit secretary, and Tom Watson, Labour's deputy leader, have all said that any deal must be put to a public vote. In the Commons yesterday, Mr Corbyn said a second referendum would only be an option if a deal could not be agreed.

Labour would be toast if Corbyn goes down this road.

howabout
If I lived in the Isle of Wight I would feel aggrieved.
I was on the island this week for work - its a surreal place
but they would rather be under represented than
(a) in a constituency with the mainland
(b) having to decide where the line between two small constituencies would go

Labour would be toast if Corbyn goes down this road.
Labour is toast until it gets rid of Corbyn.
Tories are toast until they get rid of May
Interesting times

if a deal could not be agreed

FFS they are on extension number 2. A deal has not been agreed, it's not looking like a deal is even close to bring agreed. Silly, silly courgette boy.

Do you trust silly silly courgette boy? I don't.

He could well go over the head of Starmer, Thornberry, Watson and the rest of the party to stitch up some unholy fudge with May to facilitate god knows what mess.

The Tories are still talking of hoping to have a deal before the EU elections. I sincerely hope not - more money wasted for one thing if they don't go ahead.

Peregrina
The Tories are still talking of hoping to have a deal before the EU elections.
Bercow will not let TM bring the WA back for a 4th time.
Tusk has stated that the WA is now locked.
The cross party talks are pure window dressing
unless they agree to staying in the Single Market
which is BINO

its all madness
talked to my Dad tonight, he could not stop laughing

New political party????
Julie Girling is standing for MEP, but who for? The Torys threw her out for being reasonable.

Julie Girling #FBPE@juliegirling

All will be revealed asap when we launch

@edballs
This is deeply, shockingly, horribly and indeed dangerously irresponsible. What on earth is happening to our politics.Has nothing been learned from the tragic and terrible murder of Jo Cox ?

@BBCPolitics
"We can again start to put the fear of God into our MPs - they deserve nothing less after the way they treated us"

Former UKIP leader Nigel Farage launches his new Brexit…

"We can again start to put the fear of God into our MPs - they deserve nothing less after the way they treated us"

Snap Woman, phallic nose is stirring up hate.

Why do the public have to be exposed to another Psych Ops?

That is incitement to hatred.

Nigel Farage should be banned for that statement.

Corbyn won’t agree to referendum as he’s a Brexiteer and won’t risk not leaving. He’s stated many times that he’ll only offer referendum if it’s vs bad deal or no deal. If they agree a brexit then he won’t offer ref as he wants to brexit

Nige is a tosser. Apparently, the Brexit Party is "deeply intolerant of all intolerance"

Courgette boy is a tosser as well. Where are the grown ups?

Labour are a leave party
Don't vote Labour

They might try and sweet talk the electorate
But judge them on the actions of the last couple of years

As a slightly mad Rastafarian once told me
"Actions speak louder than words"

I thought that statement was pretty foul too @Littlespaces .
Like Jo Cox's murder never happened.

twitter.com/politicsjoe_uk/status/1116751754111090689?s=21

Have we had this excellent musical interlude yet?

What does Corbyn want most of all, to be Prime Minister or to deliver Brexit?

If he can only choose one, I wonder which one he will pick?

I think Corbyn would prefer to deliver his form of Brexit. The only thing for me is that his vision of Brexit is about 40 years out of date.