Westminstenders: Compromise is a difficult word

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Today the HoC had a water leak. It closed the house for the day. This isn't without consequence; any hope for the opportunity of Indicative Votes on Monday had cold water poured on it.

Meanwhile talks between talks between May and Corbyn were about as productive as you'd imagine. But apparently they had nice tea and biscuits.

The Cooper Bill, the last minute lock on May getting a extension to prevent no deal, has been in the Lords today. I say it's been in the Lords but Tories have filibuster Ed on procedure for over 6 hours to prevent the chance of it passing the house. Tory whips are timetabled until 6am but the opposition benches have vowed to go to 7.30am. So far the votes to ruin the procedure have failed comfortably so the opposition have the number. Its just a question of time.

The trouble is with the Lords not sitting tomorrow that means the bill won't get passed until Monday and there are fears it won't get royal assent until Tuesday.

The bill doesn't prevent accidental no deal but it would be a barrier to May.

It therefore looks like May's gambit with the EU to get an extension is to say her plan is ongoing talks with Labour for a cross party solution. It won't wash.

No deal looks more and more likely.

I believe it is - and also that they speak excellent English in Brussels ....
and these are the words you learn first, anyway

woodpigeons my DH left Boston when he was 22 and only went back sporadically to visit his parents. I always hated going as I found the place so dreary and depressing.

PILs are dead now and we haven't been back for 20 years.

It's Yiddish, Chevvy and BigChoc I'm trying to work up a joke with it and the brincels........

Schlong extension! 😂
Whoever came up with that is a legend

Brincels need Schlong extension.
Sorted.

Well brincels would certainly need a schlong extension of course but they'd never admit to it

Lol woman. Great minds eh...

song

So depressed tonight. Every time there seems to be a glimmer of hope, it gets snuffed out. DH on the ragged edge so can't even rant at him about it either. Writing an email to my MP but I don't know if I'll send it. Might not be advisable.

Fatalism has its uses
I just need to make one more mis post and the MNHQ team ban me for ever
so I balance DH's piss taking against my stress relief
and
as I said to my Dad while discussing Trump (who he knows)
our elected representatives are not thinking like adults
so why should we expect them to be sane?

I really want to write to my MP again but I'm sure it will be a total waste of time. He's just posted on Twitter that he's championing 'Blue collar conservatism'whatever that might be in collaboration with the lying, odious, Esther McVey, but can't see the point tbh. Feeling really despondent at the moment.

Blue collar conservatism'
Oh jeez
those ones are the worst -maggies home and share owners who pulled up the drawbridge behind them
(I know lots of them. Analytical thought not a strong point)

I live near a small and rather lovely market town in the rural West Midlands. Leave vote mid to high fifties. Immigrant Labour mostly agricultural from Eastern Europe but fairly well integrated in the town and moving into other employment. Population is getting younger with more families moving in, it’s very commutable, even to London if you can work at home some days. Lots of independent shops, very good facilities, good to outstanding schools.
Anyway. Family arrived from London today for a stopover on the way to Wales and we had a very nice meal in a pub in town. Afterwards we went by the supermarket and got ice cream and went for a walk on the recreation ground. It was lovely except for the groups of teenagers smoking what was the strongest skunk I have ever smelled. They were not causing trouble but I would think were too stoned to do so. Anyone approaching them closely would probably have been affected too!
As we made our way back to the car we encountered a fight kicking off among a group of five clearly very drunk (English) men. We had to actively avoid them. As we walked away, my DGD (7) remarked “ isn’t safe, is it?”. This is a child who lives in a part of North London that, while nice, was about 5 min walk from some of the worst of the most recent riots.

Please send the emails / letters. Don't let the MPs lie that they 'have nothing in their postbags ...'

Krishnan Guru-Murphy called out John Redwood today for lying. Eyes are on this.

Oh my word, the Ivan Rogers interview. It's excoriating.

I think what we all need right now is a schlong extension. Words I may not utter on the school run

Dh, from Ireland, knows backwaters pretty well, lived in Galway and called it the graveyard of ambition, beautiful city but he just couldn't cope with Ireland... He gets it, when I say I don't ever want to go back, he feels the same about Ireland, although beautiful, he's lived in the middle of nowhere too and hates the small mindedness, but it's nothing on the scale compared to Lincolnshire...
My mother grew up in a small town in Ireland and when I was growing up in my mainly small minded English town used to say it was so much more liberating that what she'd grown up with, and taught me the importance of judging someone by their actions not their skin colour/religion/etc.. Yet she's gone full on UKIP with Tommy Robinson now and now won't talk to me on account of my leftyism I consider myself centrist, maybe slightly to the left. Yet she doesn't want to go back as its too narrow minded

Is “narrow minded” the new buzz term in Remain circles then? Certainly seems like it. Well I guess it’s preferable to being called a racist.

Just caught up after an evening out and the temptation among remainders to tell people who voted to leave that everything will be alright if they would abandon this silly leaving the EU malarkey and [insert fave social policy solution here] is stil irresistible it would appear.

@BethRigby
Labour sources say that explanatory documents around the PD about what would happen in the future relationship not enough: PD not legally binding but at least agreed with EU. UK only doc negotiated only with PM 'might mean nothing in a month's time if Johnson PM'

we did say

Well considering I just quoted my leave voting mother louise I'd say narrow minded was a universal term. But misread away.

This can’t be real can it? I’m wondering whether this was one of those yougov “polls” where you can only choose from a limited number of awful options

woman Labour / Remainers problem is that they can't trust this PM or the next wrt the future trade deal

There is nothing the EU themselves could put in any treaty to handle that - the UK need to propose some specific measure

Labour's idea of adding a requirement that the 3 national Assemblies / Parliaments must agree to any changes looks feasible to add to an international treaty

• the EU would be fine with that, of course

Unfortunately, May reportedly was not willing to adopt any Labour suggestions
and of course the ERG would scream even more loudly if they think their future plans for GB are thwarted, not just for NI

On a more serious note, I’m getting seriously hacked off with the amount of blatant racism and xenophobia on social media. I’ve had my son come home in tears again for having racist remarks made at him at school. The kind of remarks that you see splashed all over the Daily Mail/fb about immigrants - and I can only imagine are coming from the kids’ parents. He’s not coping and while the school is doing its best, it’s honestly relentless.

How can I fix it for him when our politicians and media are fuelling the fucking fire every day?

What, all kinds of disparaging posts about Lincolnshire towns, and not one person mentioned Scunthorpe, where I grew up. It was for that town that the word rebarbative was invented. You can look it up.