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How are those Leave street parties going tonight?

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Bearbehind · 29/03/2019 20:53

So how are the celebrating going?

Didn’t exactly go to plan did it?

Has it started to sink in what a fucking mess this all is?

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avidreader4 · 30/03/2019 22:01

Just out of interest, why do you think a no deal is very bad? What do you think will happen?

Revoking Article 50 could potentially result in civil war. Would you take this risk over the risks you see in having a no deal?

Coppersulphate · 30/03/2019 22:03

Leaving was nothing to do with party politics.
I voted leave because I want us to leave the EU.
I don't know anyone who voted leave to kick the government or David Cameron.
They voted to leave the EU.

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Bearbehind · 30/03/2019 22:03

So what is going to happen now then copper

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Bearbehind · 30/03/2019 22:05

Revoking Article 50 could potentially result in civil war. Would you take this risk over the risks you see in having a no deal?

Yep - every day of the week.

Revoking won’t result in civil war. If Farages March is anything to go by there’s about a dozen people who would actually do anything.

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jasjas1973 · 30/03/2019 22:07

Revoking Article 50 could potentially result in civil war. Would you take this risk over the risks you see in having a no deal?

Civil war? the vast majority of leavers couldn't give a fuck about Brexit now and i know some very extreme ones in RL, for many leavers, it wasn't about the EU but about kicking the establishment.... job done!!!

Its why 2 or 3k were in London yesterday and farage got 50 odd marchers.

no-deal on the other hand will cause a lot of hardship for a lot of people and even if it only lasted for a few months, many folk would n't financial survive.

Anyone know of any street parties that have been cancelled? lol!

Lonelycrab · 30/03/2019 22:08

Revoking Article 50 could potentially result in civil war.

Mmm maybe just declare martial law, it’ll all scrub out🤔

jasjas1973 · 30/03/2019 22:15

They voted to leave the EU

Cameron told them to stay IN.....so many did the opposite!
few people cared much about the EU 10 or 15 years ago, its why UKIP never got any MPs and only got 3.6m people to vote for them in 2015. even now, with brexit in the balance, they are on about 1/2 that.

The Brexit party hasn't even managed to get officially launched.

Most leavers are just sick to death of brexit and don't care whether we leave or stay.

Coppersulphate · 30/03/2019 22:16

Calm down bear,
I know exactly what I voted for and I have been telling you on these threads for two and a half years.
I want to leave the EU preferably with no deal.
It will not ruin the economy (which George Osborne claimed would be ruined immediately if we voted leave.....remember the emergency budget).
You want us to revoke because leaving won't suit you personally. It will, however, suit the country.

Peregrina · 30/03/2019 22:16

Whichever option either revoking A50 or crashing out with No Deal, I think it will be Leavers who feel most betrayed. Revoking - they didn't get their precious Brexit; leaving - they will find out what more hardship means. Not the Goves or Johnsons or Rees_Moggs, you understand - they will be alright.

Peregrina · 30/03/2019 22:18

Had Cameron not immediately run away, I imagine that Osborne would have brought in his emergency budget. But May gave him the push.

avidreader4 · 30/03/2019 22:20

You still haven't said what you think will happen if we leave without a deal? What hardships?

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Bearbehind · 30/03/2019 22:21

copper I’m perfectly calm, it’s you who appears to be needing to justify yourself.

I’ve literally never seen you state ‘exactly what you voted for’

But you haven’t actually said what you think will happen now.

What you want and what will actually happen are t the same thing.

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Quartz2208 · 30/03/2019 22:24

Copper why do you think no deal is a good thing and what will happen? Not being goady genuinely interested

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Bearbehind · 30/03/2019 22:24

You still haven't said what you think will happen if we leave without a deal? What hardships?

Have you researched anything on this?

Have you read a single document which states leaving with no deal will not result in hardship?

Even the governments own documents confirm things are going to go to rat shit.

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joyfullittlehippo · 30/03/2019 22:25

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Lonelycrab · 30/03/2019 22:26

Don’t know what this calm down stop shouting stuffs about copperHmm

Don’t you think that industries and businesses will not be effected by no deal, and that the further fall of the pound will really hurt us as a nation?

Quartz2208 · 30/03/2019 22:28

And do you really think our Government is competent enough to be able to handle no deal?

avidreader4 · 30/03/2019 22:32

My point is, nobody really knows what will happen with a no deal. It's all just guesswork. Yes of course it's risky to jump into something when we don't know the outcome, but it's still likely to be better than the other bad options.

If we can get through the blitz then i'm pretty sure a few queues at Dover will be survivable.

Lonelycrab · 30/03/2019 22:38

So like a gamble, but where all the people that understand the odds (the rest of the world in general) say it’s a bad one?

Right ho.

joyfullittlehippo · 30/03/2019 22:42

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Windowsareforcheaters · 30/03/2019 22:48

@avidreader4 If we can get through the blitz then i'm pretty sure a few queues at Dover will be survivable

What an offensive post.

Yes fighting the evil of the third reich is just like the s or inflicted nonsense of Brexit.

Just fuck off. You obviously have no idea of the misery involved.

BertrandRussell · 30/03/2019 22:50

“If we can get through the blitz then i'm pretty sure a few queues at Dover will be survivable.”

Fuck me, that’s a ghastly thing to say!

YouBumder · 30/03/2019 22:52

*My point is, nobody really knows what will happen with a no deal. It's all just guesswork. Yes of course it's risky to jump into something when we don't know the outcome, but it's still likely to be better than the other bad options.

If we can get through the blitz then i'm pretty sure a few queues at Dover will be survivable.*

Just unutterably pathetic.

BigChocFrenzy · 31/03/2019 02:04

The world wars turned the UK from the #1 world superpower into a near-bankrupt,
that has since risen to a decent status as a medium rank power

So the effect on the UK certainly wasn't benefical
even if you somehow disregard the millions of innocent dead

The EU - and the predecessors it grew from - was formed to prevent Germany and France ever going to war again,
by entwining them so deeply economically that it would impossible

The SIngle Market, which was MrsThatcher's idea greatly increased this integration

As we've found, all the EU economies that have been integrating for several decades are now very difficult to separate, including of course the UK

BigChocFrenzy · 31/03/2019 02:10

Leave needed a feasible plan, which should have been presented at the referendum

Say like joining EFTA, which we founded back in about 1960 and to which we belonged before we left to join the Common Market

EFTA has been developed too, by agreement with its members,
so there would be things like FOM and ECJ we would have to accept, in exchange for the trade benefits of Single Market membership

Every Brexit has pros and cons

So insstead of choosing a plan, the Leave campaign made a deliberate choice to promise all things to all people
To say it would be the easiest trade deal in history

So of course NO real life Brexit could ever satisfy all Leavers, let alone be acceptable to some Remainers too