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The fucking patronising response from the govt to the 6million petition

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Meretricious · 27/03/2019 07:29

^This Government will not revoke Article 50. We will honour the result of the 2016 referendum and work with Parliament to deliver a deal that ensures we leave the European Union.

It remains the Government’s firm policy not to revoke Article 50. We will honour the outcome of the 2016 referendum and work to deliver an exit which benefits everyone, whether they voted to Leave or to Remain.

Revoking Article 50, and thereby remaining in the European Union, would undermine both our democracy and the trust that millions of voters have placed in Government.

The Government acknowledges the considerable number of people who have signed this petition. However, close to three quarters of the electorate took part in the 2016 referendum, trusting that the result would be respected. This Government wrote to every household prior to the referendum, promising that the outcome of the referendum would be implemented. 17.4 million people then voted to leave the European Union, providing the biggest democratic mandate for any course of action ever directed at UK Government.

British people cast their votes once again in the 2017 General Election where over 80% of those who voted, voted for parties, including the Opposition, who committed in their manifestos to upholding the result of the referendum.

This Government stands by this commitment.

Revoking Article 50 would break the promises made by Government to the British people, disrespect the clear instruction from a democratic vote, and in turn, reduce confidence in our democracy. As the Prime Minister has said, failing to deliver Brexit would cause “potentially irreparable damage to public trust”, and it is imperative that people can trust their Government to respect their votes and deliver the best outcome for them.

Department for Exiting the European Union.^

Oh where do I start.

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SquirrelShit · 27/03/2019 07:33

"Oh where do I start?"

With the gin.

DippyAvocado · 27/03/2019 07:33

It's infuriating, but don't be too disheartened. This is their standard response, but the petition is being given debating time and there are MPs that are starting to stand up and call for Article 50 to be revoked, which wouldn't have happened before.

The momentum has swung firmly away from no deal, which in itself is a positive.

AnguaResurgam · 27/03/2019 07:33

There's a thread already

I'll link it for you in a moment

Meretricious · 27/03/2019 07:35

Thank you. I was too angry to look.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 27/03/2019 07:39

British people cast their votes once again in the 2017 General Election where over 80% of those who voted, voted for parties, including the Opposition, who committed in their manifestos to upholding the result of the referendum.

This really irritates me. That's not what GENERAL elections are for. If I care about austerity, feminism, more honesty in politics, the environment and not flushing the economy down the toilet, I HAVE TO vote for the anti-Brexit party standing in my constituency to show my abhorrence properly. What bullshit.

We don't have a direct democracy. We don't run our country like either a tinpot dictatorship or a Swiss referendumfest so why are we pretending we do? Populism is either for dictatorships or grown ups, nether of which we are.

MockerstheFeManist · 27/03/2019 10:04

The '80% of votes' again.

Labour did not endorse the PM's deal.

Songsofexperience · 27/03/2019 10:06

Well, Labour had better start endorsing something!

Tanith · 27/03/2019 10:08

This is why people are so wary of TM's WA.

However you view it, it's still a vote for leaving the EU and that will be exploited to the full, as evidenced by this statement.

MockerstheFeManist · 27/03/2019 10:09

Capn Corbyn still asleep in his bunk while the RMS Brexit fires off distress rockets and the crew say, 'Ooh look, they're having a party...'

FriarTuck · 27/03/2019 10:14

What's patronising about it? They're respecting the view of the majority, that's their job. Just because want your own way doesn't make them wrong for say 'actually, no'.

Meretricious · 27/03/2019 10:30

17 million people out of 46 million are taking us out of the biggest trading bloc in the world. And they haven't a clue how that is going to happen. The politicians are changing their minds hour by hour. Why aren't the voting public allowed to do that.

It may not be the will of the people....it may be. But it's being done for party political reasons.

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FriarTuck · 27/03/2019 11:19

17 million people out of 46 million
Not all of the 46 million voted. Perhaps they should have done. But they didn't so the majority of those who did is what is being acted upon. Not the views of some of those who lost (and who seem unable to accept how democracy works).

Yaralie · 27/03/2019 18:36

17 million people can be wrong. In 1933, 17 million Germans voted for Hitler.

MockerstheFeManist · 27/03/2019 18:43

Planted question at PMQs today from Maggie Throop suggesting the vote was skewed by foreign powers.

Ironically a line worthy of RT or Press TV.

macblank · 27/03/2019 18:45

The will of the majority of voters, said leave (I was one of them).

To show any pity for the 6m who want to undermine democracy, is stupidity personified! A huge amount of hypocrisy is being wielded about here... 6 million signed the petition, well 17+ million VOTED leave.

We didn't vote for a deal, we voted to leave

MockerstheFeManist · 27/03/2019 18:49

It is a matter of published record that the vote was a straight choice between

Leave the European Union

and

Remian a Member of the European Union

The acceptance of one is by definition the rejection of the other.

The vote was to not remain a Member of the European Union.

EEA/EFTA is not Membership of the European Union.

SingingLily · 27/03/2019 18:59

According to the newspapers, Jacob Rees Mogg signed the petition 7000 times and Idi Amin signed it over 900 times, which was no mean feat given that he died about fifteen years ago. Julia Hartley Brewer said she signed it as "Remainer McRemainface" to see whether that would be rejected as an obviously made-up name but it got through. There were other clear and obvious signs of bots at work apparently but I can't remember all the details now.

SingingLily · 27/03/2019 19:01

Godwin's Law, Yaralie, Godwin's Law.

FinnegansWhiskers · 27/03/2019 19:17

5m votes on an internet petition seems to cause great exhilaration on MN. How can 5m votes, on an internet petition (where anyone can cast however many votes they want) compare to 17.5m votes on an official UK referendum (which cannot be voted on more than once?).

How desperate can remainers be that they think 5m exceeds 17.5m? Nothing makes sense Any more 🤦‍♀️

Anyway, for all the remainers who think its a great thing that TM has offered her resignation, I hope you'll all be happy with her replacement. Who will most likely be that die hard leaver Gove.

I voted remain to begin with. Now I can't wait to leave and eagerly await the time when the UK government can get on with running the country. There's much more to the UK than fucking brexit! For nearly 3 years the UK has been running itself.

It's time we had a government who can fulfil the duties they were voted to do....aka running the country!

TeaForDad · 27/03/2019 19:19

If a huge referendum can be overturned with one, 11th hour online petition then we're a pretty shabby country and Zimbabwe will be questioning our political methods

Hazlenutpie · 27/03/2019 19:22

What's patronising about it? They're respecting the view of the majority, that's their job. Just because want your own way doesn't make them wrong for say 'actually, no'

This ^

OrchidInTheSun · 27/03/2019 19:26

It is not 'the majority'. No British citizens who live outside of the UK were permitted to vote. The vote was just a stupid prank that Cameron played on the British people. Anyone who thinks it's still a good idea is an absolute idiot

7salmonswimming · 27/03/2019 19:30

Arrogant and smug and presumptuous.

The OP, that is.

Hazlenutpie · 27/03/2019 19:32

It's not the decision to leave that is a bad idea, it's the government's implementation that is bad.