The fucking patronising response from the govt to the 6million petition

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^This Government will not revoke Article 50. We will honour the result of the 2016 referendum and work with Parliament to deliver a deal that ensures we leave the European Union.

It remains the Government’s firm policy not to revoke Article 50. We will honour the outcome of the 2016 referendum and work to deliver an exit which benefits everyone, whether they voted to Leave or to Remain.

Revoking Article 50, and thereby remaining in the European Union, would undermine both our democracy and the trust that millions of voters have placed in Government.

The Government acknowledges the considerable number of people who have signed this petition. However, close to three quarters of the electorate took part in the 2016 referendum, trusting that the result would be respected. This Government wrote to every household prior to the referendum, promising that the outcome of the referendum would be implemented. 17.4 million people then voted to leave the European Union, providing the biggest democratic mandate for any course of action ever directed at UK Government.

British people cast their votes once again in the 2017 General Election where over 80% of those who voted, voted for parties, including the Opposition, who committed in their manifestos to upholding the result of the referendum.

This Government stands by this commitment.

Revoking Article 50 would break the promises made by Government to the British people, disrespect the clear instruction from a democratic vote, and in turn, reduce confidence in our democracy. As the Prime Minister has said, failing to deliver Brexit would cause “potentially irreparable damage to public trust”, and it is imperative that people can trust their Government to respect their votes and deliver the best outcome for them.

Department for Exiting the European Union.^

Oh where do I start.

But the die-hard remainers have become hysterical and to be honest are starting to look unhinged with some of the insults and arguments they are trotting out. Talking about how people are going to die, how all leave voters are thick, uneducated etc

That was Matt Hancock, the Health Secretary, he refused to rule out extra deaths in a no-deal brexit.

Of course not all Leavers are thick, uneducated etc however, its the lack of reasoned argument that gets me, failure to accept JIT manufacturing, loss of jobs and investment to europe, how customs checks will slow imports/exports, the loss of co-op on security, science, culture.... all the FTA's we have with EU and non EU countries with our membership... this is what 3rd country status means.

Leavers make little effort to explain how these will be replicated or replaced, just "we'll be fine in 10 to 30 years" usually made by those on fixed pension incomes or the wealthy.

Even on immigration, figures show we are allowing in far more non EU citizens now than ever before.

Please. There are thousands of remainers doing everything we can to implement the vote, the vast majority of the civil service are remainers but we respect the vote as we always do, no matter what utter lunacy it is. I despair, and I think leavers ought to be ashamed of their disregard for future generations and for Ireland and the enormous damage this will do, I think David Cameron put the unity of the Tory party ahead of the good of the country and there should NEVER have been a referendum, but given that there was, it has to be implemented. Going back to the country until you get the answer you want is just unacceptable. But. I still signed the petition because I wanted to voice my displeasure. It's just a petition, it's not binding in any way.

{Going back to the country until you get the answer you want is just unacceptable.}

Ok, we had a vote and the decision was that the UK citizens are actually lemmings in disguise so we all have to jump off Beachy Head.
Would you follow this decision, or after looking at at the cliff you think that maybe the situation should be reviewed before jumping?
It is THAT simple.

Why was the original referendum held at all then?

Only the remain voters think leaving the EU is the same as jumping off a cliff.

Hardly.... but then you just seem to post stuff designed to get an reaction.

Plenty of leavers also think no deal is a disaster, say George Eustice, former kipper, who wants an EEA option.

{Only the remain voters think leaving the EU is the same as jumping off a cliff.}

It is interesting that 'leavers' / brexiteers are almost the only ones in the world that don't think it will be like jumping off a cliff.
Even the far right movements across Europe are not seriously suggesting leaving the EU. They would like to be in control of it, but not leave.
So it begs the question, are 'leavers' super intelligent and have a crystal ball so know the future will be fabulous, or the opposite.
On the basis that managing facts is not a 'leaver' strongpoint, I think I know the answer.

Good or bad leave was the result of the referendum. No deal maybe the least desirable way to leave the EU, but in the absence of a deal it’s the only way.

Least desirable? More like absolute clusterfuck.

Maybe, but if MPs can’t agree on anything then no deal will happen by default

If it isacliff the politicians will still be bickering as we go over.
I was just looking at the results of the indicative votes and every single one has been a vote along party lines.Why can't all these supposedly well educated,well paid people just work together for once?

There’s a vote tomorrow allegedly. Probably for the WA again as TM has promised to resign if it gets through. That will put an end to no deal, but if anyone thinks that deal is good and what they voted for 3 years ago then they really must have their head up their arse.

"It is also rubbish to say that 6 million have signed the petition so they must be heard. Firstly, you've been heard enough to get a response from the government on it. Secondly, 6 million doesn't come close to 17.4 million. Thirdly, many people will have signed the petition multiple times using various email addresses."

What about the nearly 1 million people who took the time to physically travel into London to protest? Presumably that was also just a few hundred thousand who appeared multiple times somehow? Maybe they were mostly Russian fakers?

The petition is a sign of what Remain voters have been fighting for for the years since the referendum - the right to be HEARD, to be SEEN, to also have a voice in all this.
Just because they lost a (purely advisory) referendum doesn't mean they don't exist and yet that's what the push towards a no-deal Brexit, the hardest Brexit possible, has been saying this whole time - decisions are being made as if almost 100% of voters chose Leave. They didn't. We didn't. I didn't.

The anti-poll tax march was only 200,000 people and we know how that all ended. The government shouldn't assume they can just ignore people who are shouting as loudly as they can for a voice.

You do realise that if we do get another referendum youre still able to vote leave it wont be just remainers that get to vote or are you worried that the 'mood' in the country has shifted more to remain now that the electorate have more facts and that youre unlikely to win a second binding referendum because there will be enforceable rules?

Seems to me thats why leavers have an issue with a second referendum, there there you little snowflakes you won now you just need to get over it, bless

Thirdly, many people will have signed the petition multiple times using various email addresses

Just because youre grasp of technology and how ISP's work, never mind the petition committee who validate the petitions, is woefully lacking doesnt mean everyone else's is HTH

If it were easy to get 6 million signatures by gaming petitions, you have to wonder why the leave side haven't gamed their no deal petitions so successfully.

Probably for the same reason that remain can turn out a million marchers on the streets of London while pro-Brexit protests struggle to turn out 100.

There are various moral and ethical implications with this issue. At what point does one consider that an outcome decided by a simple majority is unacceptable? There have been cases in history where the majority went along with deeply wrong decisions. Dictators can be popular with the majority of their population- does it make their rule ethically right? I don't think that democracy should mean switching off one's critical judgement and blindly following a decision. It's lazy and dangerous.

Maybe, but if MPs can’t agree on anything then no deal will happen by default

Quite. No decision is still a decision.

The spiritual leader of leavers is alive and well with a new(ish) entry on
his inspirational (if a little unhinged) blog - dominiccummings.com

He hopes to inspire you from his bunker with the section towards the bottom of the blog, starting ‘Dear Leave Activists’. Stirring words.

Bloody hell he's unhinged...

Why is he hell bent on destroying the UK? It's his country too after all.

If there were to be another referendum, or any form of voting by citizens, it would be a good idea if they review all the changes that the Sovereign UK government have made in the last 3 years, which they have been totally free to make.
Have there been new housing projects, improvement in public transport, how about the roll out of Universal Credit, are these all going well?
There is absolutely nothing to stop the government doing these things.
Bear these in mind, then consider that the Government have already 'spent' a good £4 Billion making some preparations to leave.

songsI doubt he gets out very often anymore.

@Figmentofmyimagination

I can't find that bit, can you c&p?

Yes it's an offensive response.