Westminstenders: Neglectful Drunkeness!

[RedToothBrush]

The HoC has spend the past 3 years in a state of Neglectful Drunkeness.

As it stands less then two weeks from Brexit Day, there is no deal we were promised. The Conservative and Labour Parties are more divided than ever.

The government is in disarray as 8 Cabinet ministers plus the chief whip voted against the Prime Minister including the Brexit Secretary who had minutes earlier argued for an extension only to vote against it. He is now on the brink of resignation.

The DUP look like they may be about to capitulate and vote for a deal. But it may not be enough even then.

This is what the cliff edge looks like.

Who wants to take a closer look?

PMK

Pmk

Thanks again Red. I’m feeling less anxious today, but it’s only because the wind has dropped...given the HoC has rejected no deal, it couldn’t be on a ballot paper, could it? Anxious again now...

Placematking.

I didn't imagine we'd be where we are. I do wonder if May's approach might get the WA through. I'm reminded of the time I put ds's Sun hat back on his head 14 times in a row until he understood that I meant it.

So Arlene Foster runs us now? Shoot me. I really mean it. She should have a cosy meeting with Beppe Grillo and Garage and all the other deeply troubled people who spread their weird certainties over our lives.

Oh and happy St Patrick’s Day. He got rid of all the snakes from Ireland, wish he would manifest himself in Parliament and clear all the snakes from there. Specifically the ERG/DUP.

We're still doing no deal planning at work. It's quite depressing. Only 12 days to go and any extension won't be confirmed until Thursday at earliest.

Morning!
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/3510056-Put-it-to-the-People-March-23rd-March

PMK

@borntobequiet

borntobequiet happy St Patrick's Day from one of the diaspora. Haven't been back home for over 10 years now (difficult family) and feeling homesick. Still annoyed about Tereeeza's 'citizens of nowhere' jibe.

PMK

thanks red

I do wonder if May's approach might get the WA through. I'm reminded of the time I put ds's Sun hat back on his head 14 times in a row until he understood that I meant it.

Good analogy. There alternative would be for someone to have suggested staying under the shade of the protective and productive group of fruitful trees of course.

www.ukclimbing.com/forums/off_belay/the_gammonball_run-701303?v=1

not sure if this is allowed , but typed Gammonball run into google. It seems the climbing community are not too keen on Brexit either

Disclaimer: I am not a climber, more a sit at the bottom, read my book and carry eat the rations type.

Well done to Nick Boles for at least half resigning from the Tory party.
Why is it only Remain voting MPs in Leave voting constituencies that are told they ought to fight a by-election? Why isn't e.g. Redwood standing down to fight one?

As for Common Market 2 - a significant number of Remainers have been saying that would be an acceptable compromise since er, um, June 2016, even if still second best. Many of the rules that the EU enacts originate in international bodies like the ICAO or WHO, so we would still go along with them.

BTW an argument may be logical, but still may not be right. Argue from false premises and you will get a false conclusion.

That climbing thread is very funny, “are they going to progress from Wetherspoons to Wetherspoons with a platoon of kazoo and mouth organ players leading the way”.

I went and read the speech of the citizens of nowhere...www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/05/theresa-mays-conference-speech-in-full/amp/

^I want it to involve free trade, in goods and services.

I want it to give British companies the maximum freedom to trade with and operate within the Single Market – and let European businesses do the same here.^

For some strange reason I thought about the likely people who might actually complete Farage's walk to London. In a venn diagram I think the number in the middle will be very close to zero:
Not working.
Very fit.
Substantial capital to 'spend' (waste?)
Very keen on leaving the EU (or at least committed to the cause).

So it will be an unemployed long distance runner/walker with a few hundred quid to 'spare' that has a strong belief that doing this walk will change something.

Yes that Citizens of Nowhere still catches for me too. I'd love to incorporate it on a banner. Not particularly catchy though
TM has changed her minds so many times but we can't and that is the most frustrating part.

I thought the comments to the gammonball thread, especially the ones talking about walking the Camino were interesting, and how it's the early stages which can be difficult and if you manage those, you become more hardened and fitter. Most of us can't do 24 miles a day. A good number of us would be able to manage 15 reasonably. But they aren't walking all the way anyway, they are catching a bus, and that is cheating

For all we are laughing about the gammonball run and the fact you had to pay to join it, they might scoop up a lot of gilet jaunes types if they actually make it last more than a week or two. Which will swell the ranks if not the pockets of Farridge etc. Although obviously Farridge's inevitable book deal and TV appearances on Fox will help (via satellite because he probably risks arrest as a "person of interest " to Mueller if he actually goes to the US)

They'll be stuffed if that tired-looking old bus blows up though and i'm sure it's not fun walking behind that for any length of time (smog in our own town behind one when crossing the road is horrific). I'm waiting for the bigger crowd photos from it today as Banks funds some actors willing to have a coastal stroll on a Sunday now they've realised Leavers aren't actually as bothered as they had hoped.

PMK

I really do hope MP's are watching the public reactions and taking note that the thread of civil disobedience if the vote isn't "respected" is slim to zero.

Remainers on the other hand...the ones organised and impassioned to fight for their country may well get increasingly cross that their options have been taken away. Civil disobedience works better when people with jobs decide to make a point than the ones usually watching Jeremy Kyle.

Pmk