Brexititeers- what are you looking forward to?

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Just as an aside, I tried typing Brexiteers into the subject bar and it auto corrected to Brexiteers rest home.

I'm looking forward to all the brexiteers sharing their wealth with those of us who just can't afford brexit.

I do not think the UK is a " god forsaken shit hole of an island"
You have no evidence whatsoever that the recent IRA activity is Brexit related. There has always been a rump of the IRA that will continue to be active.

Ofitkc, my DCs are and will remain fine.
I cannot for the life of me think of any reason why I should worry about yours.
I am not delusional. I am quite rational. It's just that you don't agree with me.
I am at least civil and do not lower myself by name calling, sarcasm or accusations.

Sashkin, of course the outcome will affect me. It will affect everyone who lives in the UK.
I happen to believe it will be in a good way.
I will live in a country that is not overseen by the ECJ and is free to make its own laws and trade deals. It is not all about the economy, money and jobs.

It’s a little like the black knight in monty python, all your limbs have been sliced off but you’re protesting it’s just a scratch. Pitiful. So I’ll stop engaging, I’ll leave you to bleed out.

I'm looking forward to all the brexiteers sharing their wealth with those of us who just can't afford brexit

Thought those who voted brexit were supposed to be thick benefit scoungers? What wealth do they have to share?

May I point out that Labour didn't actually win the election in 2017?

Don't remember saying that Labour did win the 2017 election, but the lie labour told about scrapping student loans won them a lot of votes.

Daughter was at University as the time and voted labour in 2017 even though she voted Conservative in 2015. She and many of her friends said that had labour not promised that student loans would be scrapped they would not have voted labour.

I have friend who has worked as lecturer since 1991 and he too states that all the students he know voted labour on the basis that labour promised to scrap loans. Some were told to vote labour by their parents.

My point is that people vote on what they think will benefit them in the future.

Leave comments on here seen to be focused more around feelings than facts. Please now prove me wrong and answer the OP: what are the reasons for Brexiting?

I would guess the main reasons people voted leave were:

Brussels always meddling.

Brussels not directly elected
Immigration overloading NHS and schools
Leaving the EU saves 50 million per day
UK becomes free from ECJ
UK has more freedom to trade with others

Whether or not the above materializes remains to be seen of course.

@coppersulphate yes, I think it quite likely that the fact that the Irish border will also be the European border has a bearing on IRA activity. That brexiters so blithely discount the looming threat of the resumption of civil war in a British territory as a result of their need for blue passports speaks volumes.

@BeersTonight2000 where did I say that?

Copper do you realise that should we leave and wish to trade with the EU we will need to continue to uphold EU standards and comply with many EU laws?

I will live in a country that is not overseen by the ECJ and is free to make its own laws and trade deals. It is not all about the economy, money and jobs.

You do realise that is contradictory? And where is it are you going? Honestly that kind of half-baked crap as reasons makes my blood boil.

id the students who voted labour in 2017 research whether or not UK could afford to write off student loans?

Bit of a lazy and insulting assumption youre making there

Youve no idea what particular labour policy those university students were voting for, obviously some would be voting for a review of student loans but not all

But labour has traditionally had lots of votes from the young

Daughter was at University as the time and voted labour in 2017 even though she voted Conservative in 2015. She and many of her friends said that had labour not promised that student loans would be scrapped they would not have voted labour.

Oh apologies i see youre basing it on what your daughter voted for

My gorgeous boy (im sure your dd is gorgeous too) also voted for the first time in that election...not for labour though

{UK has more freedom to trade with others}
Having the freedom to trade with others is totally different to getting a BETTER deal with anyone else. By definition, anything the UK will now buy from EU (and the other 40 countries in the FTA) will cost MORE, at they can't be offered at the same rate as EU members.
You also need to consider what the UK wants to buy. Having a brilliant deal to buy a commodity in far away land is no good if the UK doesn't really like it and want to consume it.

Oh apologies i see youre basing it on what your daughter voted for

and what her University friends said and what close friend who has been a lecturer since 1991 said too.

It is not all about the economy, money and jobs.
Absolutely agree. For me peace is far, far more important, that's why I voted Remain.

UK has more freedom to trade with others

What counties are we not free to trade with? What trade is it you want to do that you think is worth this mess for?

Yes beers

Apologies for not adding in anyone who ever told you anything about the election in 2017

Id list mine but its a bit pointless...my point still stands

(Thought i was doing quite well to apologise in the first place )

For most people, keeping a roof over their heads and food on the table is a big part of life. If that is not about the economy money or jobs what is it about?

Thought those who voted brexit were supposed to be thick benefit scoungers? What wealth do they have to share?

Rees-Mogg, Johnson, Davis, Fox, Redwood?

Rees-Mogg, Johnson, Davis, Fox, Redwood?

They are not benefit scroungers for sure, but are those people a typical leave voter? No they are not. However, their appears to be an air of superiority among the remain voters. Those who exercised their right to vote how they wanted and voted leave seem to looked upon as being benefit scrounging uneducated thick heads who live outside London.

They are typical of a South East Tory Leave voter, although probably more moneyed than the average one. As for airs of superiority - if Rees-Mogg doesn't display that, I don't know what he does display.

However, their appears to be an air of superiority among the remain voters

Some remain voters......i know loads of people that voted leave and aren't any of those things

Ive never used those words and neither have a fair few people on mumsnet Who 'apparently' voted remain

Yeah perigrina

I don't personally know any poor leave voters but I obviously appreciate that both rich , just managing and poor voted both ways

Peregrina, what is this obsession you have with JRM? Is it a love/hate thing going on? If so here's a link just for you, obviously if i have it wrong and thats not the case then you can just read it and weep

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3532379-I-know-I-am-but-I-fancy-Jacob-Rees-mogg

I wasn't aware of an obsession with the man, but I am fed up with an extremely wealthy person preaching to us. He who has made sure that his investment firms have moved to Dublin. I don't have any options like that. When he puts his money where his mouth is, I might just begin to listen. The same goes for the rest of the sorry crowd of them.