Brexititeers- what are you looking forward to?

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Just as an aside, I tried typing Brexiteers into the subject bar and it auto corrected to Brexiteers rest home.

Are they supposed to be the cream of intelligence? I didn't get the memo on that.

“Did the students who voted labour in 2017 research whether or not UK could afford to write off student loans?”

It’s not really the same level of research though...

My Brexit research was pretty much, ok, what’s the plan for leaving?

There’s nothing? They’re just going to wing it after it’s been decided? Aye, fuck that then.

Are they supposed to be the cream of intelligence? I didn't get the memo on that.

Nobody said that apart from Beers who is desperately deflecting from their own inadequacy when it comes to research before a crucial vote.

It's whataboutery, as usual.

May I point out that Labour didn't actually win the election in 2017?

Ofitck,
You are right when you say I don't care about your DC's education. You chose to leave the UK and live in an EU country. You live by their rules.
There are several posters on here who, by their own admission do not live in the UK but hold UK citizenship and live in the EU.
I think UK citizens living in the UK should be allowed to vote. Goodness only knows why Gibraltarians were allowed to vote.

"Goodness only knows why Gibraltarians were allowed to vote."

Maybe because it directly affects them. Like NI. They would become an area on a land border with the E.U.

I am well educated and intelligent and voted leave. I would do so again.
I do not believe there will be a return to the Troubles in NI. I lost family in the Troubles so I know all about it.
The majority of people in NI feel very differently now....I was over there recently and it feels different, more settled. I think the threat of a return to those times is an empty one.

{I am well educated and intelligent and voted leave. I would do so again.
I do not believe there will be a return to the Troubles in NI. I lost family in the Troubles so I know all about it.}

You may or may not be thick, but you are certainly unpleasant. Please don't go to Europe in the future.

I do not believe there will be a return to the Troubles in NI

I am well educated and intelligent and voted leave

Contradictory statements I'm afraid.

Tell me, during the time you were there recently did you happen to notice a car bomb going off in Derry?

Gibraltar is of course a British Overseas territory, one of several so citizens hold British passports

{I think the threat of a return to those times is an empty one.}
So the firebombs that were sent to the UK, apparently from the 'New IRA' what is that all about?

1tis, this begs the question of why other British Overseas Territories weren't allowed a vote. I believe it's Anguilla in the Caribbean which will be affected badly by our leaving - they do much or most of their trade with neighbouring Dutch and French islands. The French ones at least are regarded as part of the EU, or so I understand. I bet absolutely no one gave them a moments thought.

So the firebombs that were sent to the UK, apparently from the 'New IRA' what is that all about?

I think they were (using a recognised code word and designed to be incendiary devices rather than explosive devices) for want of a better expression, warning shots. As with the car bomb in Derry.

It was them saying they're ready to go.

I'm a non Commonwealth, non EU, first generation economic migrant to the UK

The UK has been importing labour from all over the world for the best part of a century.
It used to bring them in from the empire
then from the commonwealth
then from the EU

Tresemme's hostile environment made it almost impossible for non EU folks to come in
so EU folks filled the job vacancies.

Since the Brexit vote , the EU folks have headed elsewhere
so the UK is importing folks from all over the world again

the native born UK population is ageing and declining
immigration is essential to keep the economy going

Brexit will change the skin tone but not the raw numbers.

Shame the politicians were too dishonest to admit that.

TalkinPaece well said!

The fact that the Britain is an island (ignoring NI since most of the electorate did) and NEEDS trading partners, good relations with neighbours and agreements in order for the union to function seems to have escaped most people.

We need immigrants, we need good relationships with trading partners and we need not to be stuck on this godforsaken shithole of an island with nothing but Farage et al ringing in our ears!

*So the firebombs that were sent to the UK, apparently from the 'New IRA' what is that all about?

The Bloody Sunday hearing.

Goodness only knows why Gibraltarians were allowed to vote

Because they are UK citizens exactly the same as we are, who stand to lose their EU citizenship. Gibraltar is in the EU, and will be leaving with the UK. How on earth can you justify them not having a vote? It would be like saying no vote for people living in Birmingham (or Scotland or NI, which I have also seen seriously postulated on here).

You’ve said no deal won’t affect you (presumably because you are financially well off and don’t work in an affected industry). So why should you get a vote when the outcome apparently won’t have any impact on you?

this godforsaken shithole of an island

Bit harsh! It really isn't, but.... it will be if the ERG are left to it unchecked!

Songsofexperience sorry should have clarified that that comment was in reference to if the hard right get their way, I didn't mean currently.

@coppersulphate you’re worryingly delusional - you must have an inkling that your thoughts aren’t normal?

You’re right I chose to leave and I’m bloody glad I did now. Of course you don’t care about my DC, you’ve truly fucked over yours. But mine will get their EU passports and be fine.

I've skim read 6 pages and found 3 answers to the original question: something about the ECJ and commonwealth nurses.
Leave comments on here seen to be focused more around feelings than facts. Please now prove me wrong and answer the OP: what are the reasons for Brexiting?

The UK needs to leave now as it is not suited to the ethos behind the EU, if is showing it's isolationist credentials. This is a great pity as UK technology when cooperating with EU presents a formidable power in the world, sadly this is being trashed by 'politics'.

1tis - parts of the UK are showing isolationist credentials. Mostly the generation who won't be around in 20 years time.

(Of which I am one, and if I live to the same age as my late DF I will still be here, if I go at the age of my DM, I will have popped my clogs last December.)

We could see a very different mood within even five years but more likely ten years.

Of course I am aware the UK is not all like that. I was hearing today about a friend's partner being conflicted as they need to get registered but not wanting to lose their EU identity so having to consider the possibility of moving. That would be a blow to the health service.

There are two types of brexiters.

Type one (a very tiny number) are very rich people who have moved their money offshore. They are looking forward to the UK becoming totally destabilized and dysfunctional as a result of brexit. They will then swoop down like vultures and snap up the assets of all the firm's which go bust for a song, make a killing and take the profits back to an offshore tax haven, laughing all the way to the bank.

The second type is the poor deluded ordinary person who was fooled by the lies of the Leave campaign into thinking brexit would make him better off when in fact, even if he has not lost his job, he is much worse off. He will be despondent, bewildered and will look for someone to blame. He should blame the Leave liars, the Express, the Daily Mail, but he will probably blame the immigrants and the EU.