Brexititeers- what are you looking forward to?

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Just as an aside, I tried typing Brexiteers into the subject bar and it auto corrected to Brexiteers rest home.

Perhaps Coppersulphate was on the sharp end of one of those few cases? Tell us about it Coppersulphate?

I can't believe no one has mentioned the souvenir 50p!

Is there going to be a new coin?

If we leave the jurisdiction of the ECJ will we then just fall under the jurisdiction of the WTO? Asking because I really don't know were disputes will then be heard.

Duty Free hic

People from all non-Commonwealth nations having an equal opportunity to live and work in the UK, sharing their experiences and cultures. Giving priority to those from other EU nations hurts diversity.

Well what a shame, I was looking forward to an actual clear answer. Silly me. Still the question is there if Cs wants to come back and answer it.

@Gronky - does diversity virtue not apply if the non-British person is Polish?

Gronky you know that the Commonwealth and the EU are two separate things right?

Because I've not heard much from Fiji in the negotiations if they're not

We can do without the nastiness, Onalong.
The ECJ has never affected me directly.
I do not like the idea of it overruling our own judicial system. The highest court of justice for the UK should be in the UK.
And don't give me all that claptrap about it only being EU law. I know that.
It is a matter of principle.
I cannot think of any good reasons for staying in the EU. I am not interested in the economics of it. To me this is much more fundamental than money.
Or whether you lot need to change your driving licences or get visas.
Many people on here don't live in the UK even though they are still UK citizens or dual nationals, so should have no say in the matter. I know you will say it affects you. But decisions in France affect me but they don't let me vote in their elections.

To me this is much more fundamental than money

It's easy to say that when you aren't going to be affected. The ECJ put a stop to some of the Tories more barbaric austerity ideas, protecting the rights of disabled people in the first instance.

How dare they.

does diversity virtue not apply if the non-British person is Polish

What do you mean by 'diversity value'? Poles, and those from other nations, would still be able to join the rest of the world in having the opportunity to immigrate to Britain. By definition, this is more diverse than if the range of groups is limited by those receiving priority.

Gronky you know that the Commonwealth and the EU are two separate things right?

Yes, that's why I said 'non-Commonwealth'. You do understand that meaning of 'non' as a prefix and you do understand that immigration from Commonwealth nations, while more restrictive than it used to be, is still somewhat easier than from non-Commonwealth (for clarification, just in case you need the help, that means countries not in the Commonwealth) and (currently) non-EU countries?

Yes, that's why I said 'non-Commonwealth'

The irony in your smartarse response being that the UK leaving the EU has hee haw to do with non commonwealth immigrants, nor indeed commonwealth immigrants.

It has to do with the EU.

Jesus were you the only leave vote who did so to get more immigrants?

I am not interested in the economics of it. To me this is much more fundamental than money.

It is nice to be in that position but for many of us the money is pretty fundamental.

Still waiting for some real benefits.

People from all non-Commonwealth nations having an equal opportunity to live and work in the UK, sharing their experiences and cultures.

I assume you mean same opportunity as EU nationals to live in the UK, if so, it is absolutely 100% within our power as a sovereign nation to do this now.

{It is a matter of principle.
I cannot think of any good reasons for staying in the EU}
But you will happily fuck up everyone else's opportunities.
Nice!

"more diverse"? than Poland. What does that mean?

@Coppersulphate

I cannot think of any good reasons for staying in the EU.

Here's one for you. Peace in NI (and mainland) The GFA is estimated to have saved the lives of 2,000 people so far (based on number of people killed in the 20 years before) I suppose that doesn't affect you either though.

The GFA and the Irish border issue would appear to have been a surprise for many.

Which is incomprehensible tbh given the last 40 years.

Busy day out again.

What have I missed? Could anyone give me a two line summary?

Littlespaces one voted leave to get more diverse immigrants in (yes really)

Tumbleweed sums up the rest of it.

oops - wrong thread. Ignore.

The irony in your smartarse response being that the UK leaving the EU has hee haw to do with non commonwealth immigrants, nor indeed commonwealth immigrants.

At the moment, immigration is disproportionately comprised of nationals from EU countries. They don't make up a majority but the number relative to population size is higher than for the rest of the world.

bellinisurge, I believe you misunderstand. I am not describing Poland as specifically more or less diverse, I'm stating that if immigration brings in a more balanced number of people from different backgrounds (this includes Poland or anywhere else you care to name) this results in greater diversity than if people from specific countries are given priority.

At the moment, immigration is disproportionately comprised of nationals from EU countries

Of course it is.

What isn't clear is how you think that leaving the EU changes anything for commonwealth or non commonwealth immigrants.

Given the "hostile environment" and border controls proposed by the bloody Tories!

What isn't clear is how you think that leaving the EU changes anything for commonwealth or non commonwealth immigrants.

At the moment, the visa system has to be made tougher because of free movement from the EU, without this artificial pressure, visas requirements could be relaxed. I don't believe the current government will do this but it leaves the possibility open for a future government.

Right ok. I actually see your logic, so fair enough.

I disagree, but at least it's thought out rather than the usual.

I'm curious that a lot of it seemed to be about asylum seekers, which always confused me since Syria and Iraq aren't in the EU. And that it seemed to be parts of England complaining, yet Glasgow has the highest amount of asylum seekers per capita than any other UK LA and has marches of hundreds of people welcoming them.

Thank you, 10IAR, might I ask what 'it' is in the context of a lot of it seemed to be about asylum seekers? Do you mean the reasons for some people supporting Leave or something else entirely?