Westminstenders: Here we go again

[RedToothBrush]

Vote 12th March: Meaningful Vote on the Withdrawal Agreement

Vote 13th March: If WA fails, vote on No Deal

Vote 14th March: If WA fails, vote on A50 extension

Not much more to add at this stage that's not repeating what's been said before.

The thing John Rentoul seems to be basing his belief on is that TM has said that we won't brexit without a deal without the HoC having specifically voted to allow that ... which I think means he believes that if no deal is voted down but the W.A keeps failing and and no extension is forthcoming (or a short extension produces nothing but a few more weeks of, well, nothing) then TM will revoke. I think he believes that she has basically promised this - but without saying as much. So it's not a failure to understand that no deal is the default - it is a belief that measures will be taken (revoke) to prevent the default from occurring.

... It must be nice to have such a simplistic, childlike faith in TM to either A) do the sensible thing or B) stand by her own words for more than 30 seconds.

Thanks for the new thread Red

Headline: public demonstrate their utter ignorance

This article links everything discussed that surrounds Brexit - the post truth world.

Songs is correct: I have indeed volunteered our back garden for the English and Welsh Westministenders refugees Here's a late February picture of your future home . I'm sure our downstairs' neighbours will also be happy to share the other half (out of picture but a mirror image minus the raised beds).

Just have the slight hurdle of Scottish independence to achieve first though! but we're working on it - but Cox's Codpiece has shown us the way as he is apparent very keen on citizens exercising their ECHR right to self-determination and control over their own legislature

Scottish Salmon tartan rug Scottish Royalty

Headline : public have unrealistic demands

Britain Electss@britainelects*

Scottish Parliament voting intention(s):

Constituency:

SNP: 41% (-)
CON: 27% (+2)
LAB: 19% (-4)
LDEM: 8% (+2)
GRN: 3% (-)

List:

SNP: 36% (-2)
CON: 26% (-)
LAB: 19% (-3)
LDEM: 9% (+2)
GRN: 6% (-)

via
@Panelbase
, 02 - 06 Mar
Chgs. w/ Dec

Me please, Leclerc! And I’ll bring my herb garden and as much of my stockpile as I can carry!

Lonely and Bigchoc I suppose I harbour deep in my heart some hopes that rational behaviour might reappear in this country sometime. That maybe the E.U. would grant an extension on the condition that we take part in the elections. And that some sensible pro-EU people are elected, with UKIP decimated. That this would cast a different light on the proceedings, and the rush to leave would be halted.

The only way the hard Brexiteers will stop going on about democracy being thwarted is if there is a trouncing in a referendum, election or the E.U. elections. If it was a resounding pro-EU majority, they’d have to accept the change of heart. They’d probably still complain though.

Vain hopes, I guess.

So the public has the HoC it deserves, then

God tomorrow's newspapers are depressing

As jingoism rises, effective national IQ falls.

Common sense left the building long ago

Woohoo joy. Everyones fav. Torh leadership election.

Just when the public decide to riot we will get this won't we?

Mos

Most voters have fuck all clue what the backstop is

I think that's the most depressing set of newspapers yet.

Night. Don't have nightmares.

(too fucking late)

PS. Who still wants a second ref?

Bloody hell

So the UK - or is it just England & Wales - has gone into full-blown lemming mode

@red The point of a PV would be that the public specifically consent to jumping off a cliff

The UK winning the Annual Darwin Award

Red I'd bet that's some dark money funding the front page re No Deal and public approval.

Lovely. I really would like to wake up now. Please.

I know it's really petty, but I find it really annoying that the government, papers etc. keep referring to "taking No Deal off the table" as if it's a choice the government could actively choose to make. All they need to do for No Deal to happen is to keep on with what they're currently doing, i.e. very little except sniping at each other across the benches, & May to keep on jetting off to Europe every few days to have pointless meetings. It's all a bit late to be trying to sort it out, really. Ineffectual twatting bastards.

I'm getting my yard sorted out, & my windowsills. For growing edibles. This is getting really scary.

PMK

It ent over till it's over, they can't kill us till they kill us, the fat lady is yet to sing, it's darkest before dawn, yada yada...

Oh btw

John Rentoul is just wrong and talking out of his arse.

May will never revoke. It's just a ploy to try and get Brexiteers to support her deal.

The idea thaf it should be taken seriously is laughable, wishful thinking and reading the politics of Brexit very badly indeed.

Hey I'm looking forward to American beef and president trump with our new found sovereignty.

I know it's really petty, but I find it really annoying that the government, papers etc. keep referring to "taking No Deal off the table" as if it's a choice the government could actively choose to make.

They can actively choose to do it - simply by agreeing that if they have not passed a deal by the time the cliff edge comes (whenever that may be) they will revoke at the last minute.

John Rentoul believes that TM has already said this will happen (or has at least implied it).

John Rentoul is incorrect.

Rentoul, like some other Remainers, confuses what he wishes May to do, with what she is likely to do

Killing off her WA doesn't kill off Brexit, it just makes No Deal 99% certain