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Westminstenders: Oh Look is that a fire in the Italian Capital?

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RedToothBrush · 14/02/2019 21:20

Next stop: 27th Feb.

Where we will apparently have Cooper-Boles II which apparently will pass but still assumes that
a) the EU will grant us an extension despite our fuckwittery
b) that it will prevent accidental no deal, which it doesn't
c) glosses over the minor point that the only way to 100% prevent no deal is to say you'll revoke if everything else fails

Meanwhile in reality we leave in law on 29th March, despite the rest of the law having zero chance of being ready in time. Withdrawal Agreement and No Deal alike.

All that is actually happening is the Tories and Labour fighting amongst themselves. Corbyn is still pretending that Brexit isn't really that important and hoping it will just go away. May is still trying to compromise with the ERG - whom if you paying attention 18 months ago were obviously were never going to compromise on anything - cos they are fuckwitted swivel eyed loons.

Meanwhile the entire country has no other alternative but to assume no deal and act accordingly.

A deal on the 21st March (as is the planned date of the Meaningful Vote) is simply too late for planners. For them no deal has already happened even if it does never come to pass.

The strategy of brinkmanship has destroyed us. We just don't know it yet.

A Split in the Tory and Labour parties may well make matters even worse going forward with further political polarisation.

Where next for Brexit?

Who knows and does it even matter now? The damage is irreversible and will take at least a generation to heal wounds. Economically it may never be recoverable.

FUKD.

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BigChocFrenzy · 14/02/2019 23:13

Not being able to easily change medicines applies to many other serious conditions too

BollocksToBrexit · 14/02/2019 23:15

I can't believe the future of the entire country is now being dictated by 1 woman's pig-headedness. Where are the checks and balances? Where is the opposition? Where is the accountability? This isn't democracy.

BollocksToBrexit · 14/02/2019 23:22

What do you all think the outcome will be of suspected meaningful vote under duress? Do you think that with just days to go until crashing out with no deal, MPs will vote for May's deal even though nothing will have changed since it was last rejected? Because it sounds like that's what she's now banking on. 'Vote for my deal or I'll destroy the country. 1 ... 2 ...'

BigChocFrenzy · 14/02/2019 23:24

Theresa May didn’t even turn up to be told of her own uselessness, and who can blame her?

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-theresa-may-defeated-jeremy-corbyn-latest-amendment-a8780001.html?

Jeremy Corbyn had planned one of his little bark-rants at the end of it all, to peer over the despatch box at Theresa May and spit some indignant abstract nouns at her,
but found himself entirely poleaxed by the fact she wasn’t there.

Blessed at the best of times with the mental turning circle of an ocean mega liner, he was forced to improvise,
and did so with the easy air of a Congolese computer technician unsure why his IT helpdesk job interview is taking place live on the BBC news channel. 😂

GeistohneGrenzen · 14/02/2019 23:35

Oh Oh Jericho! Where are you going to keep the frog farm then? You'll need the protein to balance all them spuds...

< eyes up own small pond for possibilities previously unthought of >

LonelyandTiredandLow · 14/02/2019 23:41

Just got an eyeful and had to post; Rachel Johnson has bared all Shock

reallyfedupofbrexit · 14/02/2019 23:45

I don't know how much more of this I can take. It's looking like we will have to leave our home, which will leave us with nothing. There are over a million UK citizens in the EU many of whom will find they are unable to stay - because of lack of health care, because UK pensions won't be paid as they are now, because they will loose the right to work or even to stay longer than 90 days in their own homes.
Who cares? No one it seems

Lisette1940 · 14/02/2019 23:45

On whisky. Hot one as have bastarding virus for 12 days.
Thanks Red

mathanxiety · 14/02/2019 23:46

Thanks RTB, yet again.

Most interesting link wrt the turning down of EU aid for the hungry, BigChoc. It's appalling that there is a need for food banks in the first place, of course.

PM David Cameron’s government maintained that such aid would be better administered by Britain itself.

“Measures of this type are better and more efficiently delivered by individual member states through their own social programs, and their regional and local authorities, who are best placed to identify and meet the needs of deprived people in their countries and communities,” the Department of Work and Pensions said in a statement leaked to The Guardian.

Cameron’s government faced a barrage of criticism from the opposition Labour Party following the decision.

“In Britain we’ve got a government with a very anti-European ideology that seems more keen to not want the EU to get credit for something, than to get money that can help to feed hungry people,” Labour MEP Richard Howitt told RT correspondent Laura Smith. “If you are starving, you need some food on your plate today, and this government’s decision to refuse EU cash is literally taking food out of the mouths of the hungry.”

www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2019/02/13/this-government-has-bungled-every-negotiation-it-faced-and-n
Food banks continue to do a roaring trade, yet there is magic money for buying time and keeping the Tory party from disintegrating.

mathanxiety · 14/02/2019 23:49

Holy crap, LonelyandTiredandLow, what is the matter with that family?

7Days · 15/02/2019 00:04

Pmk.

Lucygoeswalkies · 15/02/2019 00:09

PMK. Thanks Red.

HazardGhost · 15/02/2019 00:12

reallyfedup Flowers so sorry your going through this.

LonelyandTiredandLow · 15/02/2019 00:16

Gina Miller pointing out how deaf the politicians are being here

BigChocFrenzy · 15/02/2019 00:23

reallyfedup 💐

For the 4 million expats, as well as Brits in the UK, let's hope the WA goes through
(We cannot rely on the 1% chance of Revoke)

BigChocFrenzy · 15/02/2019 00:24

Lisette 💐 I hope the virus goes very soon

HazardGhost · 15/02/2019 00:24

It must be nice to be as tone deaf as Rachel Johnson people will suffer and some might die so here are some BOOBIES! Getting naked will get me attention!

Still like her more than Boris. She's a right twat but no where near as bad.

Lisette1940 · 15/02/2019 00:36

Ta BigChoc. Feeling nice and mellow!

LurpakIsTheOnlyButter · 15/02/2019 01:13

I've just had an idea for a social experiment.

Let's all offer a new amendment. No lunch for any MP until this ridiculous situation has a plan in place that can actually be carried out.

Works on many levels. Fat cats slim down, release pressure on nhs, alleviate need for food banks, initiate empathy and compassion, kick the whole useless bunch up the arse to actually do something.

I want to cry for democracy. For my kids. For all the people who have no clue what is happening (and spending hours daily trying to keep up I am struggling). And what after? The issues of the 6 months post Brexit will not go away. Who can govern? No one as far as I can see, no opposition, no alternative. Scary scary times.

Excuse me. I need to go and check and restock my stores.

wheresmymojo · 15/02/2019 01:43

PMK

PostNotInHaste · 15/02/2019 06:00

Thank you Red

bellinisurge · 15/02/2019 06:34

Thank you RTB.
I'm still holding on to the increasingly desperate and unicorn-y belief that no grown up MP, including the PM, will allow us to trip over the cliff edge. That some parliamentary mechanism that I don't know of will be used to prevent it.

PostNotInHaste · 15/02/2019 06:44

Unhappy people over at the Express this morning:
The Prime Minister has conceded that her previous promise to MPs that she would seek to “reopen” her draft EU withdrawal agreement and deliver “significant and legally-binding” changes is unachievable. Express.co.uk understands that Brexit Secretary Stephen Barclay told Michel Barnier, the EU’s chief negotiator, that the Government is now focused on result rather than reopening the divorce deal. Mr Barclay told the Frenchman that minor changes would have to outline the temporary nature of the backstop and must be legally binding satisfy Geoffrey Cox, the Attorney General, and the Democratic Unionist Party.’*
*’

frumpety · 15/02/2019 07:02

Revoke
Any deal
No deal

All feels a bit snog, marry, avoid ! I think that this is the level of UK politics currently. Sad

frumpety · 15/02/2019 07:03

And ta Red Flowers