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Westminstenders: Oh Look is that a fire in the Italian Capital?

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RedToothBrush · 14/02/2019 21:20

Next stop: 27th Feb.

Where we will apparently have Cooper-Boles II which apparently will pass but still assumes that
a) the EU will grant us an extension despite our fuckwittery
b) that it will prevent accidental no deal, which it doesn't
c) glosses over the minor point that the only way to 100% prevent no deal is to say you'll revoke if everything else fails

Meanwhile in reality we leave in law on 29th March, despite the rest of the law having zero chance of being ready in time. Withdrawal Agreement and No Deal alike.

All that is actually happening is the Tories and Labour fighting amongst themselves. Corbyn is still pretending that Brexit isn't really that important and hoping it will just go away. May is still trying to compromise with the ERG - whom if you paying attention 18 months ago were obviously were never going to compromise on anything - cos they are fuckwitted swivel eyed loons.

Meanwhile the entire country has no other alternative but to assume no deal and act accordingly.

A deal on the 21st March (as is the planned date of the Meaningful Vote) is simply too late for planners. For them no deal has already happened even if it does never come to pass.

The strategy of brinkmanship has destroyed us. We just don't know it yet.

A Split in the Tory and Labour parties may well make matters even worse going forward with further political polarisation.

Where next for Brexit?

Who knows and does it even matter now? The damage is irreversible and will take at least a generation to heal wounds. Economically it may never be recoverable.

FUKD.

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Peregrina · 14/02/2019 21:55

PMK

InterchangeableEmma · 14/02/2019 21:57

That's insanity BigChoc. I've been out of the UK for years and hadn't really been following UK news until the ref. I'm honestly shocked

wherearemychickens · 14/02/2019 21:59

I want to go on another big march. Does anyone know if anything is planned?

I also don't understand why hauliers - all those that didn't get the ECMT permits they need for example - aren't blockading Dover/Westminster yet?

TalkinPeece · 14/02/2019 22:01

More Christmas Carols to come tomorrow
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/3508204-The-Twelve-Days-of-Brexit-trad

LonelyandTiredandLow · 14/02/2019 22:02

Thanks Red.
Must put the wine down here Grin
Keep looking at my stockpile and feeling my arteries clogging up. I've got x6 Fray Bentos Pies FGS amongst the tins and noodles Sad
I do also have a freezer full of veg but it's depressing looking at what would suit a nuclear bunker . I think I need to stockpile more wine.
Re the abortion stuff; I did wonder weeks ago as my leaver friend is hot on the leaver boards and posted about it. We are copying the Trump camp there and religious prattle is creeping into everything. Tone of BBC definitely changed in the last couple of years.

InterchangeableEmma · 14/02/2019 22:06

chickens bystander effect. It's a terminal case, I fear.

Icantreachthepretzels · 14/02/2019 22:07

I've been out on a march in Leeds tonight. I don't know how many were there but there was at least a couple of hundred - which isn't bad for a thursday after work/ valentines day/ winter's night and way bigger than anything the EDL can manage on a Saturday

The news of the govt defeat came in just as we were having speeches outside the city library. It got a big laugh - though it changes nothing in reality.

The big news, though, was that Look North (local BBC news) had bothered to send a cameraman and reporter. I remember when the BBC wouldn't even cover mass demonstrations in London. So maybe maybe we are seeing a shift from the media too little too late

There was a really good atmosphere (though there always is at these things) ... but we did get 'nazis' shouted at us by one passerby. Which goes with the 'traitor' I got called on a march in York.
The speakers were all stressing the importance of unity and coming together to fix Britain and focus on what is really important to all of us - like saving the NHS but ... I don't think the leavers are up for that. They definitely prefer to name call.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 14/02/2019 22:11

Kelvedon Hatch not very secret nuclear bunker seems like an appealing sort of place right now.

We visited a long time ago when we were the only visitors. Plenty of storage space, if a bit chilly.

HazardGhost · 14/02/2019 22:12

bigchoc who the hell turns down money for hungery people?! obvs tories Info like that needs to get wallpaper'd about like circus coming to town posters.

Motheroffourdragons · 14/02/2019 22:13

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Camomila · 14/02/2019 22:15

God...at one point I said/joked to my DM that the EU will be sending us aid after brexit...and I see the government will probably reject it.

DGRossetti · 14/02/2019 22:15

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BigChocFrenzy · 14/02/2019 22:18

Same old, same old.

Westminstenders: Oh Look is that a fire in the Italian Capital?
FionaFries · 14/02/2019 22:21

PMK

ThereWillBeAdequateFood · 14/02/2019 22:22

Maybe that's the plan, to grind us all down so we say yes whatever

I think so. I’ve had enough, all hope has gone that something decent can be salvaged. I’m just wondering what shade of shit Brexit will be.

Motheroffourdragons · 14/02/2019 22:24

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SusanWalker · 14/02/2019 22:29

PMK

LonelyandTiredandLow · 14/02/2019 22:33

Mother there is a kind of heady rush you can feel when you just accept that the inevitable No Deal is looming. I had it for about 2 weeks and am wondering if I'm crashing again...but it's probably just the stagnant nature of it all mixed with the wine.

Off to bed here. Night all!

Flowerplower · 14/02/2019 22:33

Pmk

InterchangeableEmma · 14/02/2019 22:35

The grinding down. Yes.
I've been cleaning ffs. Old school neurotic cleaning.

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 14/02/2019 22:37

Thanks red

Jericho1 · 14/02/2019 22:41

I cleared our old tiny pond. Took out the lining. Filled it with compost, and planted spuds.

colouringinpro · 14/02/2019 22:41

Need to stockpile more alcohol Confused

Sostenueto · 14/02/2019 22:50

I'm here. Well I think I'm here. I'm not 100% sure cos Parliament is so unbelievable that I think I'm in a parallel world. So in effect, I could be here or not.........ta for thread RedFlowers

BigChocFrenzy · 14/02/2019 23:12

Diabetes charities worried

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-no-deal-theresa-may-insulin-diabetes-medicine-conservatives-a8778986.html

“With just a matter of weeks between now and 29 March and, despite reaching out directly to the Department of Health and Social Care in December,
we still have not seen the concrete detail needed to reassure us – or people with diabetes – that the UK government’s plans are robust enough to guarantee no impact on insulin and medicine supplies in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

We are increasingly hearing from worried people who do not feel reassured by existing published guidance on this issue.
With the information available to date, we feel unable to fully alleviate their concerns.”
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The problem is the disruption of a no deal will affect supplies from everywhere,
as the charities, which know what they are talking about in a way that Mr Buik and his friends do not, make clear.

And you can’t simply swap one sort of insulin for another.
We are all of us on very particular treatment regimes, that require specialised equipment (syringes, pumps, pens, blood monitoring machines and strips)
as well as medication that is imported from various sources, both from within the EU and from outside it.

Changing anything is difficult, dangerous, and should only be done under the sort of close medical supervision that may be rather difficult to obtain during a national panic.