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Westministenders: Deadline Day #1

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RedToothBrush · 16/10/2018 22:41

We have hit another Deadline Day.

As it stands, the EU are looking for more progress. May is digging in her heels by suggesting there is new a requirement for backstop to a backstop. The backstop to all intents and purposes is the GFA. So May is saying in effect, that the EU are forcing her to put in provisions to protect an international agreement we are signed up to, and if we breech it we risk peace in NI.

After lots of noise it seems that the Cabinet have decided to stick by May. For now.

The EU look like they are talking as if their meeting next month will exclude the UK and just go straight to No Deal planning.

There is also other talk of alternatives to allow the UK to stay in the customs union. But theres not much to that and it still doesn't solve the ERG and the DUP problem.

May is vastly unestimating how much the ERG and the DUP want to break the GFA. Which is a huge misjudgment.

There is also talk of the final final Deadline Day actually being Dec 13. For various reasons its not. Thats 29th March.

So Wednesday is Deadline Day #1. Expect more.

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woman11017 · 17/10/2018 21:14

@labourpress
This is not a meaningful vote and Ministers can’t be allowed to silence Parliament - @Keir_Starmer

Keir Starmer MP, Labour’s Shadow Brexit Secretary, responding to Dominic Raab’s letter about the meaningful vote, said:

“Labour doesn’t accept that the choice facing Parliament will be between whatever deal Theresa May cobbles together or no deal.

“That is not a meaningful vote and Ministers can’t be allowed to silence Parliament.

“MPs must be given the opportunity to scrutinise, consider and, where appropriate, amend any resolution the Government puts forward.”

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SwedishEdith · 17/10/2018 21:14

How Tiny Moldova’s Brexit Grudge Could Cost the U.K. $1.7 Trillion

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-17/how-tiny-moldova-s-brexit-grudge-could-cost-u-k-1-7-trillion

Mrsr8 · 17/10/2018 21:15

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woman11017 · 17/10/2018 21:32

@faisalislam
NEW: EU Source: “not enough progress”... “For now EU27 is not planning to organise an extraordinary summit on Brexit in November

Several of the EU 27 leaders commented on the news tonight that they were concerned that she does not have a mandate.

Talkstotrees · 17/10/2018 21:35

@Mrsr8 can you pls link to your AIBU thread? I can’t find it Sad probably drowning in inanities.

Oh and, I think you’re a little unkind re Anna Sou - she has voted against on occasion and she is a valuable voice of reason (but she does get on my tits too Grin)

Mrsr8 · 17/10/2018 21:38

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Talkstotrees · 17/10/2018 21:40

@Mrsr8, thread...? x

BigChocFrenzy · 17/10/2018 21:41

Frankie Boylee@frankieboyle*
Brexit has many downsides but I think it will be nice for the Irish to watch a British famine

RedToothBrush · 17/10/2018 21:41

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-no-go-zones-muslim-sharia-law-third-poll-hope-not-hate-far-right-economic-inequality-a8588226.html?amp&__twitter_impression=true
Third of British people wrongly believe there are Muslim ‘no-go areas’ in UK governed by sharia law
Research warns economic inequality has created ‘two Britains’ and is driving hostility towards Muslims, immigration and multiculturalism

The view was shared by almost half of people who voted Leave in the EU referendum, and 47 per cent of Conservative voters.

And

Almost a third thought Islamist terrorists “reflected a widespread hostility to Britain from among the Muslim community”, including two thirds of Leave voters.

And

Meanwhile, the greatest concern about immigration and Islam was found particularly in post-industrial towns and coastal areas, where populations are less diverse.

And

All 100 areas where people were found to be the most hostile towards immigration and multiculturalism were in towns or on the outskirts of cities, with 93 in the Midlands or north of England.

But the 100 areas most associated with “confident multicultural” populations were in central city areas and close to universities.

Election Data has also been tweeting on this

Election Data @election_data
From the @hopenothate and @centrefortowns report today. Political representation and alignment with multicultural/liberal tribes:

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Mrsr8 · 17/10/2018 21:42

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GD12 · 17/10/2018 21:44

No Nov special meet date set. I think we can guess the way this is heading now.

Talkstotrees · 17/10/2018 21:46

@Mrsr8 I’ll search using your name :)

Mrsr8 · 17/10/2018 21:51

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bookbook · 17/10/2018 22:03

delurking to say I have filled out the survey posted ^ by BigChoc

RedToothBrush · 17/10/2018 22:07

Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
DD for leader now:

Nadine Dorries @NadineDorries
If Theresa May is asking for a longer transition period, she is stalling. It’s time to stand aside and let someone who can negotiate get on with it and deliver. I fully support DD as an interim leader. I’ve done my bit. It’s time for my colleagues to do theirs. #Brexit

Is Nadine the one on the left or the one on the right?

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RedToothBrush · 17/10/2018 22:09

Nick Boles MP @NickBoles
So the government is going to propose a €17 billion extension to the transition but refuse a £2 billion bail out of Universal Credit- good luck with that!

Laura Kuenssberg @bbclaurak
I can see this will go down VERY well

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Talkstotrees · 17/10/2018 22:11

Talk of longer transition period is a total distraction. The WA is the current issue. Surely?

Whatthefoxgoingon · 17/10/2018 22:12

Done the surgery thanks BC.

Whatthefoxgoingon · 17/10/2018 22:13

LOL the survey, thanks autocorrect 🤦‍♀️

Yeah, I really shouldn’t be allowed to do any surgery....

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 17/10/2018 22:14

Surely if DD was able to negotiate anything we wouldn't be in this fricking mess Angry

Peregrina · 17/10/2018 22:24

Done the survey. Didn't give them the answers they wanted. Maybe they will use my responses to lock me up when they start rounding people up.

Talkstotrees · 17/10/2018 22:25

Can’t find the survey Blush