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10degreestostarboard hello 😊

Hopefully we’re all too tired to keep arguing about brexit, I’m hopeful this thread will be a nicer, calmer, run up to March 2019.
So everyone welcome.

Apart from virtual drinking, doesn't anyone know any good jokes that are not Brexit related?

Double we will not be continuing to do exactly the same as we do now though. We will be trading, hopefully, yes, but not within the terms of the many trade agreements that currently apply while we are a member of the EU. If we leave the EU there are, currently, no new bilateral UK/other trading nation agreements in place to govern the quality/standards/tariffs that are to be applied. So we either 'take on trust' any and all imports from suppliers no longer having to meet agreed trading terms or we stop and check.
You seem happy with the 'take on trust' option, others maybe not so much.

Dad jokes are all the rage! How do posters not known that. Some of the dad jokes are very good.

Might as well have Friday night bum-sex threads instead if there's a Brexit Arms thread that doesn't talk about Brexit.

Sorry this might be a bit 'heavy' on this thread, but the Chinese have 'form' for making things badly. They make goods initially that are great, but if you do not keep VERY close watch there is a possibility of faulty or dangerous components being used. Chocolate, a subject close to many MN heart (and waist) now made by USA companies using palm oil. Not a danger as such, just crap!

I suppose you could combine my previous post with @ragged's, with the news about the Chinese couple failing to conceive for 4 years.

What Brexit?

Ref 2

We stay.

The EU imports most from China as do we. They import from them on WTO rules as do we and as we will do in the future. So no difference there. So what's the problem?

@Double
The EU has one set of tariffs (to which we are currently part).
We leave the EU and we drop to NO tariff deals. I forget the rate but I believe around a 10 percent immediate hike in prices.
To negotiate WTO tariff deals takes around 10 years if they are not too difficult and ALL the other members agree. With the USA, Australia and others raising possible objections already that road will be a lot longer.

To make a 'WTO deal' it is not for example UK talking to China, it is UK talking to China but with all the other countries who deal with China having their say on 'our' deal and participate in discussing what our 'deal' might be. It is incredibly complicated.
If you go to Tesco to do your shopping and ask for a 'discount' when you want 20 tins of beans. OK you COULD do this. In WTO trade rules, the managers of ASDA, Sainsbury's and Waitrose would also come along and say that your deal might be discriminatory and be able to force their wishes onto 'your' deal.

This is supposed to be a relatively 'Brexit free' relaxing space, which is a good idea. Talk crap if you wish but if it is on the actual subject of Brexit it ought to be factual and not just a regurgitated soundbite which can be disproved by 2 minutes search on Google.

here's a factual article, then, about NZ opposing the quotas that UK proposed for selling meat under WTO rules.

now made by USA companies using palm oil. Not a danger as such...

Unless you are an orang utan or give two shits about the environment.

The trend for almonds to make almond milk is destroying parts of California. Water usage to grow them is outrageous, 1,600 litres of 'decent' water to make 1 litre of 'almond milk'.

cheers surfer is there any music?

Cliff, Summer holiday?

@Doubletrouble99

If we leave the SM and CU you are incorrect that goods import and export processing will be the same as they are today.

Non EU GOODS
Unless we are part of EFTA all non EU goods would revert to WTO rules which are inferior to what we have today. Tariffs higher and processes worse. This is because we leave trade agreements with 60 countries such as China and the US which currently facilitate trade. This will make trade with these more expensive.

EU Goods - Deal
If there is a deal then I suppose everything stays somewhat the same as there will be a 20 month transition. I say somewhat because I think some autos for ex wouldn't be able to be exported anymore under rules of origin.

Thereafter we would probably have an FTA which is an enhanced WTO trading regime so worse than today but better than with say China.

EU Goods - No Deal.
We revert to WTO terms which are painful. All docs to be checked. And some cargoes inspected. Overnight. On 50% of our trade.

The above only covers goods trade. Missing are services, meds, nuclear fuel, security, isotopes etc

Not long now until our powers to preside over our own laws return... I will take chlorinated chicken for that. Mines a (very British) g&t :)

If you want to be jolly in the run up to Brexit, be careful which bank of sand you stick your head in around the coast. Most are tidal. You could go abroad in the EU while we still don't have to get visas or join long queues.

Boris Johnson is now in favour of joining the Singles Market.

Doubletree - these threads always attract a very specific known nd of remainer - save yourself the effort and don’t bother engaging with them too seriously

After all, the Brexit future belongs to those of us on the right side of history (and a national vote)

Doubletree - these threads always attract a very specific known nd of remainer - save yourself the effort and don’t bother engaging with them too seriously

And with that

Im out...not that im sure anyone would notice

{Keep it short, sweet, & to the point. }
2 out of 3 ain't bad (Meatloaf).

What is a "specific known nd of remainer" ?

Ragged

Whiney, bloody minded, arrogant.... :)