Any remainers here who don't think civilisation is about to collapse?

[Bloodylovepotatoes]

Die hard remainer here. Was gutted with referendum result, but I think it'll probably be a bit crap after for a while, then it'll level out and basically be fine. Don't think society will collapse.

Apparently this is a very unpopular opinion and either I should be a defiant leaver saying all will be wonderful and we'll have our sovereignty back and our blue passports and all those nasty foreigners will be gone, or I should be boarding up all my doors and windows and preparing myself for economic collapse and societal disintegration?

Is there no one like me?! No middle ground????

Well I think things will be crap. End of the civilisation? Well maybe not but I expect a big economic downturn, a really big one. Not like the 2008 one but much worse.
People now have more debts than savings which we can already see in the fact they are buying less and big companies are closing shops (Homebase been the last one but not the only one). The problem of course is that our economy is based on people spending in the U.K. (internal market) so any restriction on what people buy means the economy is directly hit and Hard.
For me, the issue is that all the forecasts says that in a hard Brexit scenario, lots of people will loose their job (3 millions is the estimate I have seen) due in part to the increase in tariff for products foingto the U.K. and the disruption of the JIT process (see the car manufacturers, Airbus etc...). Less people earning means less people buying and therefore more shop closure etc.... and then we go round again.

In the short term, I’m expecting big disruptions to the distribution of food (no idea how long it will last) and possible civil unrest (not nice).

And finally the thing that is worrying me much more than all that is the movement of politics towards the right or rather the far right. Out of the EU, this will go on totally unchecked and I’m really worried about ending up with a government that is really extremist. Lots of things that have been put in place already (such as making the population in charge of checking other people - eg the immigration status of people checked by complains, banks, when renting a house, NHS ...) so there is no need to do a lot to see the system move into extremism.

Farmers... they're going to struggle a hell of a lot wo the EU subsidies, that will NOT be replaced, unlike what they thought would happen (or was promised, I can’t even remember).

In the U.K., we have a lot of small farms. I can see them going out of business and been bought out by bigger farming businesses. With all the issues coming with it.
Of course you also have the regulations, GMO, hormones etc etc to contend with.

Actually I do think rich people are trying to shaft us.

The rich people I'm think of specifically are BJ, NF and JRM.

Well done leavers for supporting upper class, white, men. The working class will thank you in the end........ when they riot and we have a revolution.

I understand the current rich Brexit supporters much better, since realising that EU tax haven regulations kick in just a few days after Brexit. It'll be good for some.

Worth a read re WTO
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45112872

These brexiters have had some cheek, but some success, in persuading their poor working class disenfranchised supporters that it is the Remainers who are the "elite".

The readers of the DM, Express and the Sun lap this rubbish up every day.

Why can they not see that it is the multi-millionaire and billionaire tax-exiles and newspaper proprietors who are manipulating their opinions to their advantage and if the night-mare that is brexit goes ahead these poor fools will suffers more than any while their manipulaters laugh all the way to the bank.

It’s funny that prices never fell dramatically when oil prices crashed from $100 to $25

Yes they did, Diesel went from approx £1.50 litre to under a £1/l

But of course, as the £ continues to fall following brexit, we'll be paying far more for imports, especially those commodities priced in $, which is most of them! so you voted to make your self poorer.

Which is going some as you say you ve got nothing to lose!

apple.news/Ab3FnKJHwQAWMS_cbBW8IUA

Thick rich doctors scare-mongering again.

“Some will say the BMA is scaremongering by warning of the dangers of a no-deal Brexit, but this is not the case ... As experts in delivering health services and providing care for our patients, we have a duty to set out the consequences of leaving the EU with no future deal in place.”

FFS will someone in govt. read this ^

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Thick rich doctors scare-mongering again. hmm

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This is what doctors are talking about every single day. Every.single.day this is a topic of discussion.
We on the frontline are facing questions from patients daily and we are not getting proper answers to reassure them.
My GP colleagues are getting hammered for extra prescriptions or trying to put their repeats in too early.

We are losing doctors (and nurses!) hand over fist. In our department a huge percentage of our staff were EU nationals in 2016 and now that has drastically dropped to the point where we are struggling to staff a full shift.

EPRR/the Incident Response Plan will fail here.