Is there any way Brexit can be stopped?

[Electrascoffee]

I think there will be more civil unrest if it goes ahead than if it doesn't.

At this point, what can we do to stop it happening? People are going to die. And all because of the hubris of David Cameron and racism.

You are about to get the usual suspects piling on with, "why would we want to stop democracy" guff.

I think the only way to stop it would be a second referendum on the final deal. And that would have to be properly informed, with rules on election materials and a well thought-out question. This would take time to organise which we don't have unless we are allowed to extend Article 50 negotiations. Tbh, considering I still see people showing their evident cluelessness about the whole thing, I don't have that much faith in a second vote either. Some people still witter on about how we were fine before we joined, disregarding that a) we weren't and b) the world is completely different now and you can't just step off the train and end up back where you were half a century ago.

I think it's quite probable there will be another GE before March. The EU have said they would extend A50 negotiations if there was significant political change in the UK before March. It would buy us time in negotiations, but I can't see that either a government with an increased Tory majority or a Corbyn government would do much to stop Brexit.

You can keep protesting visibly, eg write to your MP (if they are not swivel-eyed like mine), lobby members of the House of Lords, go on demonstrations like the People's vote march in October.

I think/hope a no deal Brexit can be stopped but I don't think Brexit can be stopped. It makes me so sad - but it's done. I think the 52% were lied to, and none of the potential fallout was clearly explained (or certainly understood), and I think a lot of the 52% regret the way they voted with the benefit of hindsight, but the vote still happened.

A bit melodramatic with the people are going to die 🙄

I don't think it can be stopped, and indeed given that it is what people voted for, that it should be stopped.

Unfortunately, the last GE result weakened the UK negotiating position considerably, so the deal is likely to be iffy at best. If indeed there is a deal at all. But yes, I think it is very important to follow the expressed wishes of the population.

No, I did not vote to leave.

No, I think we are stuck with it now.
People believed the red bus and all the other lies, and now we are in the shit.

Well I'd have agreed re the melodrama until I read that the chair of the UK medicines regulator has raised concerns about not being able to import insulin through the usual supply chains. We make no insulin at all in the UK, and it has to be temperature controlled so transport options are limited. This is one of the sort of things that will have a massive cumulative impact.

. Throws toys out of Prams because people didn’t vote the way the middle classes in the main wanted

Do fuck off if you have a love for dictatorships Saudi is nice this time of year or I am sure Isis May want you

Yes let’s stop demo in action because I didn’t get my way

Meto - what an utterly ridiculous post.

If it was advisory only then why can't it be stopped though?

If people vote against no deal and yet a deal can't be made, how can we still go ahead and leave?

It can and will be stopped. It's going to make life in this country so much harder. Businesses are going to struggle and therefore many jobs lost.

Now we know that:
Vote leave cheated through overspending
Blatant lies were told (eg turkey joining the EU)
Russian interference

So the result has no legitimacy.

I think a vote on the final deal is the most obvious way to change the course. It would be much better if the government could just admit that the vote was not legitimate and that brexit will be a disaster, then call it off. But they're too cowardly.

'I think it is very important to follow the expressed wishes of the population.'

Do you not think that there should have been more of a margin than 2%?

I also think that those who lied on the Leave campaign should be held accountable for those lies that people have persuaded people to vote Leave.

I bloody well hope so.

Whenthe vite happened I was devastated but accepted it was going to happen. I’ve been waiting for the Brexiteers to come up with a valid plan, but they haven’t got one have they?
The bloody mindedness and arrogance of these people makes me so angry.

*when the vote happened

Me too Lizzie

@Chinnyreckoning
People will die because:

• Medicine importing is going to be severely disrupted. Many medicines are made abroad and we just won't be able to get them into country quick enough onve we leave the customs union.
• Medicines that previously were bought without tarrifs will how have tarrifs. Therefore will cost the NHS more. NHS will have to ration medicines as there just won't be enough money.

-Materials for radiotherapy are imported covered by EU rules (eurotom) These materials can't continue to be imported once we leave the EU without new international agreements in place. So it's possible radiotherapy will be suspended whilst this is sorted out. -Due to tarrifs, food will become more expensive. People will lose their jobs as businesses fail. This will lead to riots which may lead to deaths.

Of course it can be stopped.
No deal agreed by October 31st makes it clear what will happen. MPs won't vote for no deal. They would vote for an extension to A50 to allow time for a properly debated MP vote or referendum. EU would allow extension for that.
Or Theresa sends a little note to the EU retracting the withdrawal notice. It was her decision to take us out, so she could just as easily retract it.

My friend says she's hoping that Theresa May is playing a long game. I hope she's right.

I’m not sure it’ll be stopped it’s in entirety but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s stalled to enable a proper exit plan to be put in place.

It’s 2018 and this is allegedly one of the biggest economies in the world for goodness sake the government can’t send it up shit creek without a deal in the name of “democracy”, especially where the majority in the referendum was so slight. They are meant to govern for the good of the whole nation not the 17.4 million who voted leave

And where the fuck is Labour in all this? Seemingly nowhere. It comes to something when someone like me, a lifelong Labour voter and sometime activist, is turning to Anna Soubry as the voice of reason.

Hassled

Because if labour ran on a ticket of a re vote then lost we would then have to have another GE and round and round we go

They realise it’s likey they would not win a re bit even if they somehow got comrade Corbyn into power that’s why

Also the man is a leaver so I think your only hope is the LD good luck with them

Electrascoffee

Meto - what an utterly ridiculous post.

No that would be the preppers and people crying all night

Democracy is why the push for another referendum.
I'd accept the whole shitshow better if 3rd referendum sealed this is really what majority want.
Too bad that late June 2016 had huge number of people saying publicly they regretted their Leave vote. That's going to keep doubts in my mind forever unless we have another vote.

Meto - the problem I have with the democracy argument is that Leave had too narrower margin. And many people voted leave because they thought it would help, not destroy the NHS. Which is and has been admitted to be a lie.

Narrow a margin*