Is there any way Brexit can be stopped?

[Electrascoffee]

I think there will be more civil unrest if it goes ahead than if it doesn't.

At this point, what can we do to stop it happening? People are going to die. And all because of the hubris of David Cameron and racism.

Well it's difficult to debate when one side breaks the law and then refuses to admit that this is a significant issue.

Trying to balance 'being a bit crap' against 'breaking the law' is not reasonable.

Breaking the laws pertaining to democracy while saying we want democracy respected is beyond hypocrisy.

@LoveInTokyo - no one is asking you to respect it other than assuming you won't break the law to stop it.
There's literally no party you can look to for leadership on this.

@loveintokoyo rather splendid analogy there 👍

That is why I have now left the UK.

Fuck Brexit, and fuck the UK.

If we ever become a grown up, properly functioning democracy again, I might move back. Otherwise, I'm out.

If that shifty bastard Corbyn said "vote Labour and we will stay in the EU", I would vote for him. And I swore never to vote Labour while that git is leader.

Yes to the analogy and yes to the shifty bastard Corbyn.

I'd wish there were a way to stop Brexit peacefully but I cant see how. It's the nasty little inwardly looking state that we escaped from being returning, and with a nasty little right wing govt for the foreseeable, allowing every kind of racist/misogynistic behaviour to be 'acceptable'. The Trump State of UK.

Thanks for the link, Parker. I saw the poll results on sky news but missed the response from TM.

Agree with bellini and Pan re Labour. Regardless of JC I don't think they're doing a very good job of being in opposition - when there's a democratic vote for a general election the opposition don't roll over and accept everything the government does as fine, so I don't know why they aren't going mental over the fuck up that is Brexit. It's the most vulnerable in society that will suffer the most. Even if you accept Brexit they should be criticising TM at every turn for the way it's being carried out, and asking millions of questions about the plans for the army and the Kent car park and medicines and customs and all the other stuff people are worried about. I know it's impossible to deliver a good Brexit but I'm not seeing the coverage of what Labour are saying.

Would the rest of the EU want to stop Brexit though? Amor are the just fed up of us now and will be glad to see the back of us?
I'm so angry about this. I just can't believe we're in this situation.
We seem to be half way to creating Gilead by default!

Macron said it could be cancelled recently enough, last week or so. Nobody thinks it's a good idea and I'd imagine the EU are quite concerned about Ireland (I mean the whole island).

Brexit, if it does happen will adversely affect other EU countries too (I'll bet they love us). Hopefully that will make it more likely that it will be stopped.

it won't be stopped, but it won't be that bad, in all honesty nothing will change.

it won't be stopped, but it won't be that bad, in all honesty nothing will change.

Do you honestly believe that? Hundreds of thousands of things will change? What the heck do you think all the negotiations are about?

@Electrascoffee - the country most likely to feel the most negative effects is Ireland. Luckily it has 26 pals on side to make sure it's as ok as possible. And it is making serious inward investment to bypass trade routes that involve the UK.

Do you honestly believe that? Hundreds of thousands of things will change? What the heck do you think all the negotiations are about?

I am from the future, i know this. I'm about as trustworthy as any other source.

@CaptainKirkssparetupee - do we find life on Mars?

do we find life on Mars?

No. they find us.

Shit @CaptainKirkssparetupee and I was a bit worried about Brexit

Ironically THEY join the EU.

And all because of the hubris of David Cameron and racism.

Why does David get the blame? The country voted for a referendum in 2015, Parliament voted to have it, the people voted to leave in 2017, Parliament voted to use A50 and Parliament continues to vote for Brexit.
David couldn't have done it alone, most of the country including our parliament is complicit.

Are you saying 17 million people in the UK are racists?

Remember only 34% of people voted to remain in the European Union

Do you honestly believe that? Hundreds of thousands of things will change? What the heck do you think all the negotiations are about?
What have all the negotiations achieved?
Bugger all.

David Cameron gets the blame because it was irresponsible of him to allow people to vote for something which they couldn't possibly have been informed well enough about to know what the consequences of leave would be.

The country voted for a referendum in 2015,
It also voted to stay in the Single Market - there was a whole paragraph in the Tory Manifesto of the time. It didn't vote for May's hard Brexit in 2017 because she lost her majority.

it was irresponsible of him to allow people to vote for something which they couldn't possibly have been informed well enough about to know what the consequences of leave would be

Are you saying the elite should ban voting and just dictate to people what is best for them because they are to thick to understand issues? Hmmmm, I cant see that going wrong...

Both the leave and remain campaigns had plenty of time and money to inform people of the consequences of the effect of their votes. I even remember the government spending 9 million pounds telling everyone of the catastrophe if you dared to leave the EU. David tried to get a good deal with the EU but they said NO, and he subsequently made it very very clear that leaving the EU would mean leaving the single market and the customs union.

Most people knew what they were voting for, saying otherwise is a convenient tactic for the 34% of the UK who are Europeans to get a second bite of the cherry to keep us in the EU against our will.

It's very strange that Cameron made it clear that we would be leaving the Single Market. I wonder who wrote his 2015 manifesto?
He also made it clear that he would stay on as PM and see it through, which didn't last 24 hours after the results, so I don't know why anyone goes by what Cameron said he would do. He showed himself to be completely unreliable. One has to wonder just what his expensive education taught him.

Are you saying the elite should ban voting and just dictate to people

And yet again we are presented with a posters who knows next to nothing about how U.K. democracy works.

And again... we are a representative democracy. Our MPs represent us but do not have to slavishly follow the wishes of the people. We vote for individuals who make their own decisions which is why it is important to consider the individual and not the party.

We are not a direct democracy like Ireland or Switzerland where referenda are built into their constitution.

Take an issue like capital punishment MPs voted to make it illegal in 1965 despite the vast majority of the public supporting it.

The referendum was advisory. Parliament is sovereign. No one wants to ban anything or dictate anything we want the system of representative democracy in the U.K. to follow custom and practice.