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Brexit

Thread for Brexit supporters

168 replies

Maidsrus · 26/07/2018 16:44

Aren’t you sick of remainders rants? Here’s your chance to tell us the good stuff we’ve got to look forward to...

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Ta1kinpeace · 06/08/2018 21:18

And shed loads of offers afterwards..
of what and from whom ?

mummmy2017 · 06/08/2018 21:26

Bear how can you not see.
Even the papers are saying it.
There is no way a deal can be reached, that will satisfy everyone.
Spain have said if they don't get Gibraltar they will vote a deal down.
Ireland said the same over borders.
The is no time to invent a please all deal.

Rosstac · 06/08/2018 21:27

Bearbehind you are not TM are you ? you seem to have a crystal ball for the future, you do realise that if we don't leave the CU/SM your party will be in the wilderness for decades and you will have brought about the uprising of the messiah NF

Moussemoose · 06/08/2018 21:28

Remain will be responsible for the rise of the far right?

mummmy2017 · 06/08/2018 21:35

Torys will get a new leader, and life and party will move on.
Only if we don't leave will they fall.
After all Labour couldn't win on a sure ticket... You do remember Ed Milliband.

Ta1kinpeace · 06/08/2018 21:44

Spain have said if they don't get Gibraltar they will vote a deal down.
Link please

prettybird · 06/08/2018 22:45

A good summary of why "they" really don't need "us" as much as the Brexiters think they do Hmm

https://news.sky.com/story/europe-really-doesnt-need-us-as-much-as-we-need-them-11462776

Buteo · 06/08/2018 23:03

EU farmers have said they will riot if there is no deal

I think it’s more likely to be UK farmers rioting.

British farmers say ‘no deal’ Brexit would be an ‘Armageddon scenario. NFU president Minette Batters said the food sector could be on the "brink of collapse".

inews.co.uk/news/armageddon-scenario-no-deal-brexit/

Who needs food anyway ...

SoloD · 07/08/2018 07:28

@mummmy2017

Where's your evidence for this. We leave in March with no deal, we will be desperate. Is that really a great place to start our negotiations?

And yes we may well be able to sign agreements quickly for goods, because we are a huge net importer of goods. But we have to pay for those imports. How? By exporting and where this country is very good is services. But the FTAs we hope to "roll over" from the EU mostly don't include services.

Sticking your head in the stand does you no credit.

twofingerstoEverything · 07/08/2018 07:42

mummy EU farmers have said they will riot if there is no deal.

This is an interesting assertion. What is your source? The only one I can find is a report in the Daily Express which says Tory MP, Bernard Jenkins, says EU farmers will "RIOT in the STREETS" (their capitalisation) in the event of no deal. So, hard-Brexit fan, Jenkins, speculates on what will happen, and this somehow ends up with you spouting it as some kind of fact. Why am I not surprised?

Bearbehind · 07/08/2018 08:58

mummmy thinks the DM is gospel!

Bearbehind · 07/08/2018 08:58

I meant DE!

Cobblersandhogwash · 07/08/2018 09:04

A thread by an ardent Leaver on Twitter. Very interesting.

Ta1kinpeace · 07/08/2018 12:53

Have a look at this picture .... read it all through
www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/07/uk-run-out-of-food-no-deal-brexit-national-farmers-union#img-2

Buteo · 07/08/2018 13:54

Is that the same Bernard Jenkin that had a hissy fit live on air the other morning on the R4 Today programme when he realised that he wasn’t the sole interviewee and therefore he wouldn’t be allowed to spout nonsense unchallenged?

mummmy2017 · 07/08/2018 14:03

I also heard it from. MEP....

Ta1kinpeace · 07/08/2018 14:04

mummmy
I'm still waiting for evidence of your Gibraltar claim

mummmy2017 · 07/08/2018 18:11

Oh that one is easy it is in the EU parliament mins...
If you look you will find...

Ta1kinpeace · 07/08/2018 18:16

Yup, but yet again, you did not understand other than the tabloid headline.
And I shall link to a proper source as you never manage to find any
researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-8278

mummmy2017 · 08/08/2018 06:27

How can you not see that there will be no deal, people are saying these things, you need links, oh is that going to stop it, will you hold this link up in the air like some magic talisman and it will make the unrest of EU farmers go away.
Your talking about ques at boarders, farmers who can't deliver their EU fresh veg will march...
So there is your link... From me...

Buteo · 08/08/2018 07:31

farmers who can't deliver their EU fresh veg will march...
So there is your link... From me...

Repeating some ultra Brexiteer’s hope/opinion does not make it a fact.

TheElementsSong · 08/08/2018 08:28

farmers who can't deliver their EU fresh veg will march...
So there is your link... From me...

In all the history of the weirdness that is Brexit, this is possibly one of the weirdest things I have read Confused

SacrebleuLondres · 08/08/2018 08:37

This mummmy individual does not make much sense in anything she says.

Where I do agree with him or her is that there cannot be a deal agreed. There are no circumstances where the Venn circles overlap for a deal UNLESS EEA EFTA magically appear as a solution. How the ERG would react to that I think we all suspect.

This leaves us with crashing out or remaining. And I don't see us crashing out unless the intra Party bickering continues and there is an accident.

I didn't think it would happen by I see a referendum to get us out of this mess. The volume for such a vote is rising.

Figmentofmyimagination · 08/08/2018 14:18

EEA/EFTA/FTA is a soft Brexit, but it's still brexit

Daisy none of this is acceptable to the European Union without also accepting freedom of movement. This is hardly surprising, since freedom of movement IS the EU. In other words, it is a founding principle of the Treaty of Rome and if you took it away, there would be no EU anymore.

Everyone I know would be pretty happy now with the EFTA option, including freedom of movement, perhaps with an enhanced "break" if need be to get a deal done.

It is worrying that we are shutting down our children's opportunities to work in the rest of the EU, earning Euros. Brexit is predicated on the assumption that the UK will always be a relatively prosperous place, with a healthy currency, but Brexit is exactly the kind of market shock that could cause (further) real harm to sterling. (No prizes for guessing which leading Brexit advocates will be standing at the ready to gain gadzillions from this currency shock).

The whole thing is a shower.

Figmentofmyimagination · 08/08/2018 14:23

This is an interesting assertion. What is your source? The only one I can find is a report in the Daily Express which says Tory MP, Bernard Jenkins, says EU farmers will "RIOT in the STREETS" (their capitalisation) in the event of no deal. So, hard-Brexit fan, Jenkins, speculates on what will happen, and this somehow ends up with you spouting it as some kind of fact. Why am I not surprised?

I heard this interview on the Today programme. Jenkins is such a twat. You wouldn't want to live inside his head. At the same time as selling Brexit as an emotional "identity-based" vote for sovereignty etc, he goes on to assert that the EU and member states that sell shedloads of tomatoes etc to the UK, like the Netherlands, Spain and Northern France will make their decisions as "rational economic actors". What a dickhead. His ideological fervour blinds him to his own internal contradictions - or more likely, he is so arrogant and entitled that he thinks his target audience is stupid.

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