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Brexit

Thread for Brexit supporters

168 replies

Maidsrus · 26/07/2018 16:44

Aren’t you sick of remainders rants? Here’s your chance to tell us the good stuff we’ve got to look forward to...

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Buteo · 08/08/2018 14:41

Target audience doesn’t need to be stupid, just unquestioning.

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 08/08/2018 14:49

Bernard Jenkins reckons we can informally assure the EU that we will keep on sticking to their production standards & quality assurance

If the EU were to agree to that, it would make a mockery of the whole system of common standards. How do some MPs get away with being such idiots?

By the by, a British Agricultural Policy and a new system of environmental standards for agriculture was once a possible benefit. It's looking vanishingly unlikely.

DaisyTwirl · 08/08/2018 16:40

Figment, I know it includes FoM, but that is something that can be better managed by our govt & politicians within the existing rules.
FoM in its current form is also something which seems likely to change at some point in the future anyway.

The biggest selling point of EEA/EFTA/FTA is that it is acceptable to EU and it is also broadly acceptable to the moderate remainers & leavers of the UK (who are the majority).

It seems to be a perfect interim option which acts as a stepping stone to a full brexit & causes the least disruption.

Rosstac · 08/08/2018 17:16

DaisyTwirl there is only one rule, the 3 month rule which is easily ignored, what’s wrong with a job based visa system instead ?

DaisyTwirl · 08/08/2018 18:26

I'd prefer that Rosstac, but unfortunately being in the EEA means FoM & I've come to the conclusion that EEA (with EFTA & a FTA) is the best solution at this point, with the time we have left.

I'm a leaver, who'd prefer a clean break - but I'm also a realist & a democrat.

The EU are being intransigent & the UK has been incompetent; hardline leavers have misrepresented things like the EEA & EFTA, just as hardline remainers have tried to subvert at every opportunity & the result is a lot of suspicion amongst the majority of the electorate.

That's why I believe that the best option at this point is to Brexit like this, as it is easily achievable and we can still pursue independent trade deals around the globe.

The long term aim should be complete brexit, but that would be up to future govts to pursue if the electorate support a manifesto which proposes it in GE.

mummmy2017 · 08/08/2018 18:41

I truly think your going to find that there is no way to do a deal.
Two years and we have nothing, how can you not see this.
Your blind faith in it just can't happen is truly amazing...

Hasenstein · 08/08/2018 18:43

The long term aim should be complete brexit, but that would be up to future govts to pursue if the electorate support a manifesto which proposes it in GE.

You could replace the word "Brexit" with "Remain" and this would still hold true.

mummmy2017 · 08/08/2018 18:50

I spent this weekend with some very high power bankers, it seems they are all briefing for no deal.

Hasenstein · 08/08/2018 18:52

Mummy
I spent this weekend with some very high power bankers, it seems they are all briefing for no deal.

And what is your view on this? Would you be pleased or dismayed?

Moussemoose · 08/08/2018 18:52

And if this 'no deal' deal happens you think this a good thing because....?

SacrebleuLondres · 08/08/2018 20:11

@Moussemoose

I don't know how anyone could argue that leaving the EU without anything would be a calamity affecting goods trade, services trade, our nuclear power plants, medicines, cancer treatments, security, Galileo, education, health etc

Basically every aspect of our lives. It would be like going from broadband access to no internet. Overnight.

I suspect there are some on here that would enjoy the anarchy No Deal would bring. Maybe this mummmy person is one such individual.

Bearbehind · 08/08/2018 20:19

I spent this weekend with some very high power bankers, it seems they are all briefing for no deal.

Are you sure there wasn't a typo there mummmy?

Maybe a 'b' that should have been a 'w'?

bellinisurge · 08/08/2018 20:42

@DaisyTwirl - how are the EU being intransigent? Is this because they don't wish to undermine their position by giving into us saying "I'll swkeem and skweem and skweem until I'm sick". Funny, that.

SacrebleuLondres · 08/08/2018 20:46

@bellinisurge

What's funny is the UK was the main architect in designing the EU the way it is in order to ensure the Single Market works well and to remove any designs from the EU to make decisions.

Now, this is not so convenient and we want the EU to ignore those very rules which are in fact existential. We are in effect asking the the EU to break up just to accommodate the UK.

youokhon · 08/08/2018 21:05

how are the EU being intransigent? Is this because they don't wish to undermine their position by giving into us saying "I'll swkeem and skweem and skweem until I'm sick". Funny, that

Exactly the kind of comment that makes leave voters not want to engage with this thread. Grow up.

DaisyTwirl · 08/08/2018 22:26

Exactly the kind of comment that makes leave voters not want to engage with this thread. Grow up.

True dat.

Cobblersandhogwash · 08/08/2018 23:27

Oh who cares anyway?

I mean, the EU hasn't changed its position since the referendum - and it won't. Why should it?

Let the U.K. crash out. There'll be bleating galore then. And who cares? I'm past caring. I'm alright, Jack. Literally.

Jason118 · 08/08/2018 23:37

So your name is Jack Alright?Smile

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