Thread for Brexit supporters

[Maidsrus]

Aren’t you sick of remainders rants? Here’s your chance to tell us the good stuff we’ve got to look forward to...

Dear fellow remainers, can we make a pact to give the leavers some space on this thread? It might be interesting and helpful to hear their uninterrupted views, perhaps?

Talks Fine by me.

I don’t think they’re coming

@Maidsrus
Cool, I'll watch this thread to see the Brexiters each posting

the three things that will be better in their day to day lives after Brexit

as once all of the Leave supporters have done that, everybody will be much better informed.

You go first as you started the thread.

Why would we bother?

A thread started by a remainer, with instructions from another remainer as to how they expect the Brexiters to structure their responses.

Thanks, but no thanks 🙄

Because if you did we might have to digest some factual ideas before posting again

This thread looks like an invitation to be punished for wrong thought by anti-democrats.

As you were!

A thread started by a remainer, with instructions from another remainer as to how they expect the Brexiters to structure their responses.

I can see that. Why not start your own? I do think it's vital to understand the other side of the debate. I don't hang out in Brexit much though so I don't know if that's useful.

We had our own MrsTerry.

The Brexit Arms & Leavers Lagoon were the main ones, but there were a few others along the way.

All the pro-brexit threads went the same way - the same remainers piled on to goad & slag off Leave voters.
They couldn't help themselves.

We all got fucked off, then bored of the same old tedious shit, so we stopped bothering.
Life's too short to waste time setting yourself up to be abused on MN.

Fair enough.

Yes I’m a remainder. Yes I’m really worried about Brexit. For the economy, for the country’s debt levels and more austerity, for Ireland, for my kids being able to get jobs now that they are leaving school. But on the other hand I think personally I can weather the storm, and I can support my kids for a while longer, and it is going to happen whether I like it or not.

So I’m open minded enough to hear some potentially good news about it.

What do brexiteers prefer - looks like it will be TMs white paper or no deal - what do you actually want?

what do you actually want?

1. please cease calling me racist and stupid.
2. please cease accusing me of wrong thought.
3. March and petition against the 2017 general election result instead of against the 2016 referendum result, if you are desperate to be anti-democratic.

There is no debate, only toxic name calling from each side. So best to accept that the two sides disagree and NOT abuse each other.

I am sick of people I know, who used to like each other, being constantly at each other’s throats.

I am not interested in name calling, I don't care why you voted the way you did but please explain how this situation can ever deliver a good result.

Most of us on Mumsnet are Mums and we care about our children's future. To Remainers it seems incomprehesible that any Mum could want a worse future for her children.

So please, please, pleas explain why!!"!

*Most of us on Mumsnet are Mums and we care about our children's future. To Remainers it seems incomprehesible that any Mum could want a worse future for her children.

So please, please, pleas explain why!!"!*

It's really simple - I don't believe that my vote to leave was a vote for 'a worse future for my children'.
Quite the opposite in fact.

looks like it will be TMs white paper or no deal

Except the White Paper has been dismissed by the EU, so we're on No Deal or BINO.

And No Deal isn't going to happen.

So this whole exercise has been pointless.

It's really simple - I don't believe that my vote to leave was a vote for 'a worse future for my children'.

Could you tell us why?

It's really simple - I don't believe that my vote to leave was a vote for 'a worse future for my children'.
Of course, that’s obvious. But how do you think it won’t be? How will Brexit benefit your children?

People who voted remain once were initially welcomed onto the original brexit arms threads

Then it all got very tense and argumentative and then people who voted leave once said that anyone who voted remain once werent allowed in the arms anymore

And then SOME people who voted remain once got cheesed off cos no one is in charge of the threads but MNHQ

The end

Hmmm, that’s a nice story. Or at least it was, once. So, if you voted remain once you were welcomed by people who had voted leave once? But then the people who voted leave once got a bit shirty and some people who voted remain once got cheesed off. And the MNHQ peeps keep us all in line. Got it.

Given the vitriol so easily and lightly flung towards Leavers on every other discussion on Brexit it would be a modern day miracle if any of them wanted to willingly discuss their thoughts publicly on this thread. It can only go the same way as all the others, and people have had, quite rightly, enough.

Sorry, I just don’t get that argument Whatif. I am confident and secure in my knowledge. I have researched the available information and come to an informed position. If this information and knowledge had led me to believe that leaving the EU was the best option, I would share that. But it hasn’t.

What I’m saying is that if I believed in Brexit I would shout it from the rooftops and defend it to the hilt.

So please, please, pleas explain why!!"!

Every person has their own set of reasons why.

You may benefit from grief therapy to help you stop questioning, accept the situation and move on.

So, if you voted remain once you were welcomed by people who had voted leave once? But then the people who voted leave once got a bit shirty and some people who voted remain once got cheesed off

Cool story bro.
But not entirely accurate.
It wasn't the leavers who got shirty & led to the remainers getting cheesed off.

There were incessant pile-ons & abuse from the same group of angry remainers who just couldn't help themselves.

To be fair, a few remainers were perfectly lovely & able to converse cordially with leavers (Rufus being one), but there was a few particularly nasty remain posters who made sure the threads were always combative.

The leavers just left them to it in the end - hence there are very few Brexiters who still bother to post on the Brexit threads.

I can't speak for other Leave voters but I think we will do better as a more independent country.
There are a lot of successful, happy countries outside the EU. There is a lot of economic growth outside the EU. And there is a lot of poor decision making inside the EU.
I do see the positives in EU membership and there will be losses as well as gains. But I just cannot relate to all the doom mongering on these threads.
Then again, I don't see change as a bad thing. It's usually positive. Without a shake up corruption creeps in to all governments and institutions. You see it in the EU and in the current Tory party.
Whether Brexit is hard or soft or practically nonexistent I really don't think very much will change in the short term. We will however be able to make better decisions for our country going forward. We will probably need a change of government to do that though. And a lot more good will all round.
Sorry that was so long. I don't often have time to post!
P.S. All this prepping talk is bonkers. We need a separate Breppers section for it.