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Westministenders: A Pickling Summer

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RedToothBrush · 18/07/2018 22:55

May has survived. The Turd Way has survived.

Whether this is true is another matter. The Turd Way was hijacked by the ERG who ripped it up and turned it from being a starting point to another ridiculous declaration of believing in Royal Unicorns. Rees-Smug has declared May LINO (Leader in Name Only) in tribute to BINO (Brexit in Name Only).

No one yet has grasped the consequences for NI. The backstop was absent from the White Paper except to say, it would never be used.

Johnson also in his commons resignation statement lives in a fantasy land, saying we had 2 and half years to get something in place for the Irish border. Except we don't because we don't have an agreed plan, we haven't hired the people to do it, there is no guarentee the way we are going that we will get a transition agreement agreed to afterall; its entirely dependent on us meeting certain criteria.

Even the Irish themselves haven't got to the point of admitting the possibility that there will be an Irish Border. Under WTO rules, members are legally required to secure their borders. If we are separate members to the EU we have to secure our border and they have to secure their border. In theory NI could be a separate member to the rest of the UK but this would breech the priniciple of a border in the Irish Sea.

No Deal has moved from being an option to being a distinct possibility.

The Trade Bill passed through the Commons unscathed with a dodgy pairing, the assistance of Labour rebels and the brewery tour organising skills of the LD and Labour whips despite the best efforts of Tory Rebels. It suggests the ERG have the numbers to force things but there still are no guarentees of anything.

We've had calls from Justine Greening for another referendum; despite it being obvious that the laws on referendums being ridiculously weak and just about everyone ignoring the findings of the electoral commision and the Leave Campaign's referal to the police. Even then the maximum penalties are wholly inadequate to prevent and deter electoral rigging.

We've had calls for a cross party government of National Unity. Which has been dismissed by Corbyn as an attempt at an establishment stitch up.

We've had the former Head of DexEu (the department who have refused the most FOI requests) and various ERG backbenchers (who said that publication of documents would damage the governments negotiations) ask for transparency and for draft DexEu documents to be published.

Ian Paisley Jr appears likely to be suspended from sitting in the HoC from 4th September for a month for breeching parliamentary standards, losing May one vital vote. She has however been bolstered by the resignation of John Woodcock from the Labour Party pledging his ongoing support of Brexit (he's been a Labour Rebel in the past). Plus there is the O'Mara Factor whereby the whole country could be at the mercy of whether Jared can be fucked to turn up to work at all or not.

There are growing signs out there for increasing support for EEA though despite it all.

The Trade Bill now goes to the Lords, where there is suggestion they might throw it out, after the Speaker declared they had the power to do so as it was a Supply Bill rather than a Money Bill thanks to the Amendments the ERG supplied.

All the while jobs are lost and companies are abandoning the UK and NI has had the most violence in years, but no one cares because Brexit means Brexit and its all worth it.

And finally, when being questioned by the Liason Select Committee, May said that 70 Technical Notices for Households and Businesses in the Event of No Deal would be published in August and September.

The country is in a total pickle.

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BigChocFrenzy · 24/07/2018 19:46

pretty Without the much lower pound, the deficit would be much worse !

When a country has serious structural problems, the exchange rate can only help to a certain extent

  • remember too that imports of raw materials and components became more expensive because they are normally priced in dollars from roW, or Euros from the EU
Tanith · 24/07/2018 19:49

I can think of a plus.
We no longer have Nigel Farage monopolising our screens.

Strange that such a patriot should not be straining every sinew to help realise his dream, though.

BigChocFrenzy · 24/07/2018 19:55

Spare a thought for UK pensioners resident abroad - and not just in the EU:

The Association of British Insurers has stated that private pensions will not be paid to EU bank accounts in case of no deal Brexit.

That's in addition to their purchasing power over the last 2 years having been about 15% less than before the ref.

Now they face the prospect of trying to return to the UK after Brexit, when there will be no flights and no ships
and if they have UK driving licences, these may be invalid, so they won't be able to drive either.
Walk home, age 70, 80, 90 ? Confused

Remember too that the UK govt will no longer be picking up the tag for their healthcare costs
(EU member countries repay each other for costs of expat pensioners)
and even if they can afford private insurance, many will be over the age limit for new business / have major pre-existing conditions which will be excluded

BigChocFrenzy · 24/07/2018 19:57

The pension insurers only referred to EU banks, but imo it may apply to non-EU banks too,
because most agreements the UK has about anything seem to be EU agreements.

frumpety · 24/07/2018 19:57

I think Surfer got miffed because of my 74% of the UK population didn't actually vote leave statement, its hard being a majority when you aren't Grin

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prettybird · 24/07/2018 20:00

I know BigChoc - I was being somewhat facetious Wink

frumpety · 24/07/2018 20:04

Oh and you know those public sector pay rises ? well there is a rumour going round wrt to the nurses pay rise , that the trusts are going to reduce unsocial hours payments to make up for it.

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