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Westministenders: A Pickling Summer

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RedToothBrush · 18/07/2018 22:55

May has survived. The Turd Way has survived.

Whether this is true is another matter. The Turd Way was hijacked by the ERG who ripped it up and turned it from being a starting point to another ridiculous declaration of believing in Royal Unicorns. Rees-Smug has declared May LINO (Leader in Name Only) in tribute to BINO (Brexit in Name Only).

No one yet has grasped the consequences for NI. The backstop was absent from the White Paper except to say, it would never be used.

Johnson also in his commons resignation statement lives in a fantasy land, saying we had 2 and half years to get something in place for the Irish border. Except we don't because we don't have an agreed plan, we haven't hired the people to do it, there is no guarentee the way we are going that we will get a transition agreement agreed to afterall; its entirely dependent on us meeting certain criteria.

Even the Irish themselves haven't got to the point of admitting the possibility that there will be an Irish Border. Under WTO rules, members are legally required to secure their borders. If we are separate members to the EU we have to secure our border and they have to secure their border. In theory NI could be a separate member to the rest of the UK but this would breech the priniciple of a border in the Irish Sea.

No Deal has moved from being an option to being a distinct possibility.

The Trade Bill passed through the Commons unscathed with a dodgy pairing, the assistance of Labour rebels and the brewery tour organising skills of the LD and Labour whips despite the best efforts of Tory Rebels. It suggests the ERG have the numbers to force things but there still are no guarentees of anything.

We've had calls from Justine Greening for another referendum; despite it being obvious that the laws on referendums being ridiculously weak and just about everyone ignoring the findings of the electoral commision and the Leave Campaign's referal to the police. Even then the maximum penalties are wholly inadequate to prevent and deter electoral rigging.

We've had calls for a cross party government of National Unity. Which has been dismissed by Corbyn as an attempt at an establishment stitch up.

We've had the former Head of DexEu (the department who have refused the most FOI requests) and various ERG backbenchers (who said that publication of documents would damage the governments negotiations) ask for transparency and for draft DexEu documents to be published.

Ian Paisley Jr appears likely to be suspended from sitting in the HoC from 4th September for a month for breeching parliamentary standards, losing May one vital vote. She has however been bolstered by the resignation of John Woodcock from the Labour Party pledging his ongoing support of Brexit (he's been a Labour Rebel in the past). Plus there is the O'Mara Factor whereby the whole country could be at the mercy of whether Jared can be fucked to turn up to work at all or not.

There are growing signs out there for increasing support for EEA though despite it all.

The Trade Bill now goes to the Lords, where there is suggestion they might throw it out, after the Speaker declared they had the power to do so as it was a Supply Bill rather than a Money Bill thanks to the Amendments the ERG supplied.

All the while jobs are lost and companies are abandoning the UK and NI has had the most violence in years, but no one cares because Brexit means Brexit and its all worth it.

And finally, when being questioned by the Liason Select Committee, May said that 70 Technical Notices for Households and Businesses in the Event of No Deal would be published in August and September.

The country is in a total pickle.

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RedToothBrush · 24/07/2018 17:13

I think we all just need to laugh manically like DGR at this point...

hands out the sedatives

don't forget to stockpile them though

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BlueEyeshadow · 24/07/2018 17:23

Blog post on gender, language and Brexit to continue that little tangent a while longer!

DGRossetti · 24/07/2018 17:23

I think we all just need to laugh manically like DGR at this point...

Not sure where I gave that impression.

Honestly, in real life, I'm very subdued ...

54321go · 24/07/2018 17:33

There was a time in the distant past that treason, for which screwing the whole country should count, would mean a visit to the tower for an appointment with a man with a big axe. Maybe just ONE should be taken on this route to persuade the rabble in Westminster that they should be thinking of the country rather than petty squabbles.
Reality TV 'Life, get me out of here'.

Quietrebel · 24/07/2018 17:41

Or CBB -Tower Special

EmilyAlice · 24/07/2018 17:48

If Brexit is a fourth declension Latin noun then surely the dative plural must be Brexitibus. 😀😀😀

ClashCityRocker · 24/07/2018 17:53

54321 I nominate JRM.

So.....i have been following today's events. I'm not really sure what it all means.

Peregrina · 24/07/2018 17:58

Well, now, with the Tories re-discovered enthusiasm for the Death Penalty, it would be one of life's ironies, if one of their number was the first candidate for this.

GaspodeWonderCat · 24/07/2018 18:05

EmilyAlice If Brexit is a fourth declension Latin noun then surely the dative plural must be Brexitibus Cake Flowers

Funniest thing I have read today Grin

ClashCityRocker · 24/07/2018 18:07

Well, looks like the brexiteers aren't happy....

And the remainers aren't happy...

Let's call the whole thing off.

EmilyAlice · 24/07/2018 18:21

Great isn't it Gaspode. I suppose they need it for the Vatican.

DGRossetti · 24/07/2018 18:39

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Westministenders: A Pickling Summer
EmilyAlice · 24/07/2018 18:40

Imagines priests wandering round the Vatican trying to construe sentences to include Brexitibus.
My Latin is too rusty.

DGRossetti · 24/07/2018 18:41

Of course, speaking Latin is elitist (apparently)

EmilyAlice · 24/07/2018 18:44

Experts dontcha know.

ElenaGreco123 · 24/07/2018 18:50

Thanks for reminding me to add anti-histamines and painkillers to my prepper list.

BigChocFrenzy · 24/07/2018 18:58

DG Military aviation is completely separate from civil aviation laws, so will continue as normal.
(provided they can get fuel & spare parts)

Part of the govt contingency plans involved the RAF distibuting food, if need be

  • they might have to fly to France, if the ports are logjammed.

BIG problem:
Even the huge USAF would struggle to supply 65 million people;
our tiny RAF has no chance - the govt may have forgotten how much they & their predecessors have cut it !
Hopefully, it would just be to a few cut off areas
They could certainly fly in essential medicines, including from France

54321go · 24/07/2018 19:02

How much SPAM can you get in that new aircraft carrier that is waiting for the jets from the USA?
{Military aviation is completely separate from civil aviation laws}
Don't tell Easyjet and Ryanair! A whole new class of traveling.

BigChocFrenzy · 24/07/2018 19:06

red, peregrina As Paisley's suspension is for more than 10 days, his constiituents can issue a recall petition and bring about a byelection (in which he may stand)
BUT they would have to get signatures from 10% of the electoral roll - a very big ask.

Is his supension from the DUP just for show, Hmm or would it last through a recall byelection ?
Would they reallydeselect him - his dad basically founded the party

Remember why he received such a long HoC suspension:
After receiving holidays worth 50,000 quid paid by the Sri Lankan govt, he coincidentally Hmm lobbied UK govt ministers to block international moves against the Sri Lankan regime for human rights violations.

BigChocFrenzy · 24/07/2018 19:19

Someone was asking for more detail about consequences of no deal.

The Independent had a go at this:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-uk-leave-no-deal-what-happens-eu-talks-david-davis-a8460416.html

BigChocFrenzy · 24/07/2018 19:26

Brexit effects already ? - big jump in trade deficit over the last 3 month

Official govt figures from ONS

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/bulletins/uktrade/may2018

•	<strong>The total UK trade deficit widened £5.0 billion to £8.3 billion in the three months to May 2018,</strong> 

mainly due to falling goods exports and rising goods imports.

•	<span class="italic">Falling exports of cars and rising imports of unspecified goods were mostly responsible for the £5.0 billion widening of the total trade deficit in the three months to May 2018.</span>

•	Removing the effect of inflation, the total trade deficit widened £4.7 billion in the three months to May 2018; falling goods export volumes was the main factor as prices generally increase
OlennasWimple · 24/07/2018 19:26

So Ian Paisley Jnr being threatened with suspension from the party that his dad founded

Guto Bebb, one of the Brexit rebels who recently lost their ministerial post, is a Tory despite being the grandson of one of the founders of Plaid Cymru

Is nepotism over? Does family mean nothing any more? If things come in threes, which MP with a family connection is next? (Nicholas Soames is the only one that springs to mind, but there must be others, I'm sure)

prettybird · 24/07/2018 19:29

I thought the drop in the pound was supposed to have helped exports? Confused

That and blue passports are about the only concrete examples of "benefits" that I've seen. Hmm

54321go · 24/07/2018 19:33

Brexit, the deal that keeps taking!

SwedishEdith · 24/07/2018 19:45

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/alun-cairns-guto-bebb-accused-7160648

Guto Bebb was one of the MPs who took donations from Russians.

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