If there was another Brexit referendum tomorrow ...................

[TistyTosty]

.......would you vote the same as you did originally?

bellinisurge Sorry but I have to pull you up on y2k , my BIL earn 100,000s doing nothing in many big corporations who were worried about y2k, took their money and done nothing and was a hero when nothing happened on the 01/01/2000, because on most machines nothing was going to happen

TheElementsSong Not a lot by recent history

Yes, remain.

@Rosstac - my personal knowledge and anecdata is different to your personal knowledge and anecdata about Y2K.

Not a lot by recent history

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@Rosstac no one likes to admit they were duped.

Rosstac, even if you think the economic predictions are wrong (and I very much doubt it), I want you to explain what benefits of leaving could possibly be so great as to make you willing to risk those predictions.

Rosstac, my DH is a computer programmer and he worked bloody hard on Y2K.

Work and pray
Work and pray

Live on hay
Live on hay

You'll get pie in the sky when you die
That's a lie!

But I s a bizarre argument full-stop.

It’s just choosing a point of moment in history with barely any parallels to Brexit and then saying ‘aha, this didn’t go badly so Brexit won’t either’

Why chose that moment? You could equally chose, say, outbreak of WW1, Spanish flu, Vietnam, ‘aha this went badly, so will brexit’

Don’t you see it makes you look stupid?

Talkstotrees So is my BIL and he loved it, money for old rope, as I said before not all machines were affected but he had to check them all, computers, HMI, plc’s, 90% were unaffected

bellinisurge Who’s been duped?

Your knowledge of y2k would suggest that you easily are.

There was some scare mongering but many systems needed patching and or hardware upgrades/replacement to be able to work with newer systems that didnt.
Sure I earned a fortune in OT but it was necessary.

he had to check them all

And would he have known that 90% weren't affected without carrying out due diligence? And is checking things are in order not work?

He checked individual computers' human-machine interfaces for YK2 problems across public limited companies, did he?

TheElementsSong He was being well paid, he done as he was asked, should he refused

these things are on networks, you dont need to go to individual boxes.

Yes I would still vote to leave.

He was being well paid, he done as he was asked, should he refused

That was not even remotely what I asked

the same experts that tried to scare us over Y2 K that was blown all out of proportion only affected a few old machines,

Debunked many times by those of us who actually worked on Y2K. If you think it wouldn't have happened, or only a few dates would have been affected cast your mind back a few weeks to the debacle of Lloyds and TSB trying to separate their systems - thousands locked out of their accounts, given access to other peoples accounts and such like. Oh yes, not a problem if you don't bank with them, but absolute shit if you did.

Greenland didn’t suffer,
Because Greenland with a population of 50,000 and one major industry fishing, spent 3 years negotiating with what was then a much smaller union, of either nine or ten members.And are still part of the Kingdom of Denmark, which is still an EU member. No comparison with a UK of 65 million and preparation being babbling 'Brexit means Brexit' and 'A red, white and blue brexit'. Maybe they had idiots who babbled Greenland exit is Greenland exit, but at least they got on with the job.

yes there will be some adjustments to begin with,
Oh yes, the NHS will be so flush with cash, they won't know how to spend it.

none of you know 100% what will happen
That goes for life generally. None of us know we will be alive tomorrow, but it doesn't mean that we don't make plans, don't buy food, don't pay the mortgage etc..

Yes, Brexit will be an utter disaster for many generations to come.

Brexit is nothing like y2k. People/businesses had adequate time for y2k and planned for it and fixed the issues . Why the fuck is anyone comparing with it????

No deal Brexit is 10 years of financial pain.

I’ll be fine - my mortgage is paid off more or less and I’m going to stockpile. My teenage kids may not get jobs for a few years but hopefully I can support them and see them through.But the people we think of poor now will be the ones that suffer.

those of us who actually worked on Y2K

Peregrina you sound like an expert Leavers don't listen to experts, especially middle class experts.