If there was another Brexit referendum tomorrow ...................

[TistyTosty]

.......would you vote the same as you did originally?

What’s an Alternatve Vote? I always thought the original referendum was too simple in its question.

I voted Leave. I’d vote Leave again or abstain. I wouldn’t vote remain unless the options were more complex.

I'd vote remain again. BUT, there should not be a second referendum. Ignoring the wishes of a majority would damage the country beyond repair.

Ignoring the wishes of a majority would damage the country beyond repair
Completely! Any party calling a second referendum can kiss their party being in power again goodbye, the distrust it would cause. I would not have been for another vote if remain had won.

The same, and over the last 2 years I've learnt loads - that I should have known before! - and absolutely I would try to avoid the shit-storm we're in now.

Kudos to those who voted leave and have re-thought. You're not alone.

Re. PP saying they voted leave because Turkey would be shortly joining the EU. This wasn't true. Even Gove admits it. www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/16/michael-gove-admits-leave-was-wrong-to-fuel-immigration-fears

What are leavers most excited about, post-March 2019?

My god. How much of a fucking disaster does leaving need to become before it can be stopped ?

But what were the majority wishing for? No one knew what leaving would look like and most probably weren't imagining this clusterf*ck.

Agree, with you, Onesmallstep and others saying similar. There can't possibly be another referendum on Leave vs Remain.

There's some sense in a referendum asking which version of Brexit people would prefer, given different Leave voters had different visions – one bunch of Leavers getting what they want inevitably disappoints another bunch of Leavers. That's before even considering those who voted Remain but now need to make the best job of Brexit.

I don't have the appetite for a further referendum myself, but I can see there's an argument for having one – but only on the form of Brexit. The UK still has to end up not a member of the EU.

StrangeLookingParasite How can it be a disaster, we haven’t left yet

Re. PP saying they voted leave because Turkey would be shortly joining the EU

How about Macedonia, Albania, Kosovo and the former Yugoslavian countries? Only a matter of time imo. I am pro freedom of movement only if the countries are comparable economically.

newdocket And they way this government is shaping up will still won’t know what leaving looks like

And I agree with ThroughThickAndThin01 that the options given would need to be more complex. They should have been on the original ballot, too.

I voted remain, I don't believe there should be a second referendum but if there was I would vote leave.

Yes.

We always had a vote on who joined and it needed to be unanimous.

We could have used brakes on immigration but didn’t.

I still will never understand how these concerns are soo huge that people would prefer to tank the economy, jeopardise Irish border, deplete our universities, risk our foodand medicine supplies.

I really hope our clever non establishment brexiteers farage, Rees mogg, Johnson and Davis, have got some solutions.

Simply - Alternative Vote or Supplementary Vote- would be along these lines:

3 choices
Remain
Soft Brexit
Hard Brexit

You get 2 votes, first choice and second choice. You can only use one preference if you want.

If one of the three options gets a majority they win. If not then the option with the lowest votes would be eliminated and their second choices are taken into account.

That is a very simple explanation.

I was in two minds which way to vote the first time, but in the end voted remain. I would definitely vote remain now because Brexit is such a mess. It maybe could have been good, but it isn't. It doesn't benefit anyone as far as I can see. Everyone will be worse off, including the people who voted leave. I'm sure this isn't what many of the leavers had hoped for.

yes mouse split the leave vote 'cos that's not rigging it at all, is it?

Yes (remain)

Yes

Thanks Mousse for explanation.

Actually, vandrew4 it might work in leaves favour. All hard Brexit votes would have a soft Brexit as a second choice ( one assumes) so unless Remain won first time then Brexit - hard or soft - would win.

Yes (remain). It gives me the rage when people start talking about the ‘will of the people’: less than 50% of the population voted leave and if the result had gone the other way there’s no way we could have avoided another vote in a few years’ time.

Once you add in the misdemeanors of the Leave campaign I just can’t understand why politicians (even those in remain constitiencies) say it’s as cut and dry as ‘this is what the people want and we’re going to deliver it’.

Imsorrylhaventaclue Less than 50%,but fewer want to remain in the EU, please remember that

Less than 50%,but fewer want to remain in the EU, please remember that

I hadn’t forgotten it, just don’t think it’s particularly relevant to my point. It’s insane that the referendum was allowed to go ahead without provision for marginal results (in either direction). In my opinion stubbornly proceeding with Brexit when it’s looking like a complete clusterfuck and we’re at the mercy of incompetent, arrogant and selfish politicians becomes even more ludicrous when the win was so narrow.

The issue with the vote, imo, was that it asked “stay as we are (are you happy with that)?” Or “leave and gain (whatever you perceive the benefits to be even though they’re unknowns because the negotiations aren’t done yet)?”

Ie leave voters weren’t asked would you like to leave if it meant xyz. So people were voting blind - they were asked to make a judgement/guess of the perceived benefits or risks without them being knowns.

Another vote - and I’m not saying there should be one - should be totally clear about asking people if they are happy with leave with the conditions as negotiated by the government. That’s a very different question in my eyes, both for remain and leave voters