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If there was another Brexit referendum tomorrow ...................

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TistyTosty · 17/07/2018 11:52

.......would you vote the same as you did originally?

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ShackUp · 17/07/2018 13:09

Yes (remain).

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 17/07/2018 13:10

wouldnt bother voting again in anything as clearly nothing is honoured and the establishment think they know best!

MissLingoss · 17/07/2018 13:11

The trouble is the EU have not shown any attempt to reform, what makes you think they will even if we had stayed in ?

Exactly. The EU has shown it has no intention of reforming itself.

ADarkandStormyKnight · 17/07/2018 13:15

I prefer EU standards to American standards.

I feel concerned when countries which want to gain advantage over us influence the outcome.

user1457017537 · 17/07/2018 13:21

I voted Leave. I voted to leave as I was deeply unhappy re Greek poverty and the situation in Greece and Cyprus. Ditto the poverty in Italy, unemployment and lack of opportunities for young educated people in Spain. I don’t think we will be allowed to leave the EU as it is no longer in the hands of our government. We also have extremely weak politicians in my view.

drearydeardre · 17/07/2018 13:22

perking
no mention of the £9m spent on the pro-remain leaflet then !
which everyone is conveniently forgetting
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35984991

user1457017537 · 17/07/2018 13:22

I found the scenes of people queuing to get food in Greece extremely upsetting it could happen here

SmileSweetly · 17/07/2018 13:23

I’m more upset with past and previous governments that have let us join a club where you can never get out of

^this

The trouble is the EU have not shown any attempt to reform, what makes you think they will even if we had stayed in?^
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^and this

user1457017537 · 17/07/2018 13:24

Onlyfoolsnmothers my views exactly. I vowed never to vote again as I don’t think we have democracy in this country

TheCag · 17/07/2018 13:29

I would vote remain again.

My Dh and Dad voted leave but both want a second ref and would vote remain now, not exactly changed their views but they can’t believe how inept the govt are.

mostdays · 17/07/2018 13:30

Yes. Remain then, remain (even more ardently) now.

PerkingFaintly · 17/07/2018 13:30

No spending limit before the campaign period started, drearyme. So no limit on all the many years of campaigning by the Daily Mail, for example.

Once the campaign period started, all campaign groups were bound by the same rules. It was even perfectly legal if the leave side in general spent more than the remain side in general – as long as it wasn't by a single co-ordinated campaign.

So, not a particularly onerous law. But Vote Leave still managed to break it.

nervousnails · 17/07/2018 13:30

No. I voted remain. Now, having seen all the tantrums being thrown by the remainers, I have to vote against them. Also, the EU looks like a failing project. They only vote to support Germany and France. The rest of us don't matter. They have made that very clear.

shirleyschmidt · 17/07/2018 13:30

@Rosstac Totally. Juncker himself has already said they're not interested in any reform.
It is not ridiculous to suggest the result would be fixed. The mere existence of a second vote (IF there is one) tells you everything about the establishment's respect for democracy. Rigging it just saves the hassle of further attempts to subvert the result.
The assertion that the first referendum was 'illegal' is yet another last ditch attempt to breathe new life into the debate. For God's sake the Govt spent £9m on a pro-remain leaflet for every household, and had the entire establishment including Barack Obama at its back, yet it's Leave who had some sort of advantage?! Sure.
Trying to invalidate the result on a spurious technicality is not going to change the minds of leavers who heard all the arguments to stay, and still want out.

SmileSweetly · 17/07/2018 13:32

@TheCag I also can't believe how inept the government are, and if there were a general election I wouldn't vote as I just can't give anyone my vote with confidence.

I would normally vote labour, but not Jeremy Corbyn....what a mess.

TuttiFrutti · 17/07/2018 13:33

No. I voted Remain but would change it to Leave now, given how the EU has behaved over the negotiations.

PerkingFaintly · 17/07/2018 13:33

The first referendum wasn't illegal.Hmm

The behaviour of some of the people and organisations who were very keen for Leave to win, was illegal.

Dowser · 17/07/2018 13:35

Thing is if there was another referendum we are two years on
Things are not the same
We wouldn’t even be voting for the same set of circumstances
There’s not even the same set of people in key positions in any of the countries so it’s not that simple

BifsWif · 17/07/2018 13:37

I would still vote remain.

Itoldyouiwasgeeky · 17/07/2018 13:37

I voted remain, but we need to respect the electorate. I would’ve liked another vote in every election that I have ever took part in (apart from local, which I forget to vote in most of the time).

If there were a second referendum I would abstain.

sixnearlyseven · 17/07/2018 13:40

Yes

Mookatron · 17/07/2018 13:41

@shirleyschmidt you are talking about 'the establishment' as if Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson, David Davis et al are not firmly a part of the establishment. Privately educated, inherited wealth, given their positions through nepotism. Brexiters ARE the establishment.

And since the referendum was only ever advisory - could only ever be in a parliamentary democracy - it was never 'legal' in the first place. The leave campaign broke the rules making the result unrepresentative of the ACTUAL 'will of the people' on a level playing field.

Moussemoose · 17/07/2018 13:42

Justin Greening suggested using Alternative Vote in a second referendum. It wouldn't be a simple yes or no.

The rules could be drawn up to make it binding not advisory.

Itoldyouiwasgeeky · 17/07/2018 13:43

user1457017537 you’re right the situation in Greece is was very upsetting. I almost voted leave because of it too.

Rosstac · 17/07/2018 13:43

PerkingFaintly And they have been fined as the Tory’s were in 2017, just another attempt by remainers, If Parliament stood as one or a majority and advised the people that Brexit is not in the best thing for the British people at this time, They we gain more respect from me, if true,