Custom Union

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If as it looks likely the U.K. will be in some form of custom Union, what should us leave voters do?

Would it be better to stay as we are ?
Go on a protest march ( hasn’t helped remain )
Make the conservatives suffer at the next GE,
Or has anyone else got any suggestions ( no not you remainers, with just get on with it was a waste of time anyway etc etc)

I'm impressed a Leaver has finally acknowledged this!

Looking forward to reading the replies, although I suspect they won't be terribly forthcoming as it would require more Leavers to acknowledge there's simply no solution that doesn't involve CU.

How many leavers wanted out the cu anyway, wasn’t on the ballot paper?

I think you will find that leavers want out of the EU and includes the custom Union, As staying in the Custom union as it is at present would not be leaving, There is a solution which will be bad for the U.K. and yes the EU is leaving with a no deal, not ideal,

If you think that the leavers didn’t know about the custom Union etc, then the remain party did not do a very good job of explaining this and it’s impl during the referendum and the then PM DC did say on tv that leaving the EU would mean leaving the SM and the CU

User - options are limited:
A) not sure that’s possible
B) you are right, probably a waste of time
C) The downside of making the Conservatives pay is to have JC running the country, that fills me with a greater fear than enything else.

I knew we should have given good old Nigel a seat on the Brexit committee!!😊😉

Or since the remainers what another poll, we could have Custom union or no deal , oh wait the unelected lords have tried to stop that,

Would bring in some form of Custom Union go some way to keep the remainers happier ?

Is that a hard Brexit I still see lurking in the background? Time is ticking and still no deal😮.

Yes, of course it would be much better to stay as we are. As is becoming blatantly obvious, there are no benefits to leaving the CU or SM or both, so let's keep the proportional control that we have within the EU.

Would bring in some form of Custom Union go some way to keep the remainers happier ?

Remainers would be happier if we just revoked A50.

Agreeing to stay in CU is entirely pointless as it's BINO.

This problem is entirely the fault of all a Leavers who pushed ahead with their vote and triggering A50 without having the first clue how it would work in practice.

The fact there is currently no viable alternative to leaving SM/CU means we'd all be better off if we just scrapped the whole thing.

This problem is entirely the fault of all a Leavers who pushed ahead with their vote and triggering A50 without having the first clue how it would work in practice.
Is this not the fault of the government, not the leave voters, nobody blames the con,Lab etc voters when a party gets in power and cant implement their new policies

bearbehind we can't revoke A50

User we can revoke A50 , there is the means to do it. Not saying that that is what should happen, although obviously I would be happy to see it happen as a remain voter.

Is this not the fault of the government, not the leave voters, nobody blames the con,Lab etc voters when a party gets in power and cant implement their new policies

I think people do blame parties when they don't deliver, which is why we have this endless cycle of Conservative/Labour Governments. The current prime minister triggered A50 so in that respect I do blame her to a certain degree for not taking more time to educate the UK public on what that actually meant and what the timescales would be to achieve anything. I still cant quite decide if her action was due to ignorance or arrogance.

Is this not the fault of the government, not the leave voters, nobody blames the con,Lab etc voters when a party gets in power and cant implement their new policies

At least have the decency to own your vote.

The primary reason I voted Remain was because there was simply no plan in place to actually leave.

If you failed to notice that, that's no ones fault but your own.

we can't revoke A50

Technically we can.

Saying this isn't Leave voters fault is entirely in line with that pitiful open letter from those 5 NE MP's.

You voted for it- you deal with the fall out and own it.

poster bear Sorry, but I just don’t get the idea that I have to come up with a plan, it was and is up to the existing government to implement the vote, if they cannot or will not do it then step down and let somebody else do it or if TM thinks it not achievable or detrimental to the UK then cancel A50 ( if it can be ) to stand down and call a general election, sometimes doing nothing is worse than do something.

You didn't personally have to come up with a plan but you did have a duty to decide if, on balance, it was possible.

To be fair to TM (much as that pains me because she chose to be in this position) this isn't a political party issue, it's the fact there simply is no solution.

There was no evidence to suggest it ever was, proven by the mess we're in right now.

Because the government can not follow through with the vote it is leavers fault, let’s take the blame instead of the government, why do we bother having a government or the House of Lords then, let’s have the public running the country it would save us a lot of money, I do own my vote, but I must admit, I didn’t realise how little to nothing the government had done on the outcome of a leave vote. But that’s my fault as well

poster bear Want makes you think I would know if it was possible ? I never dreamed that our governments would sign us up to something that we can never get out off, how ludicrous is that, so if the EU came to the UK for more and more money with approval of the other 27 nations, we would have to do as told because there is no way out.

What do you suggest the government do OP?

Leaving the CU isn't compatible with no hard border in NI.

No one can change that.

Want makes you think I would know if it was possible

Err, maybe because you voted for it.

i never dreamed our government would sign us up to something that we can never get out of

More fool you.

This is essentially the unicorn argument isn’t it?

Leaver: I voted for unicorns so I expect the government to deliver unicorns.

Remainer: the is no evidence unicorns exist therefore I doubt the government can deliver.

Government: unicorns are not real therefore we cannot deliver unicorns

Leaver: but it’s what we voted for!

so if the EU came to the UK for more and more money with approval of the other 27 nations, we would have to do as told because there is no way out.

FFS- go back to the Daily Mail pages as that's clearly where you've got you info from.

Do you honestly think the EU could just keep demanding money from us and we had no say what so ever?

You've actually voted to make that exactly the case.

I never had a say in what the government signed up to from 73 onwards, why would the government ask us to vote on something that is not achievable? I am expected to know more about it than the people that actually negotiates and sign off these deals The HOP voted to give the public the vote are you suggesting that didn’t know it couldn’t be achieved either?